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What The Fuck... In A WARMING WORLD!!?? - Impossible!
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AlleyCat
2024-11-19 14:11:02 UTC
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Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
levelled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
JTEM
2024-11-19 21:44:28 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds
So that's proof that the earth is super heated... isn't it?

Oh my Greta! The paper must be faked! FAKED! Because *Everybody*
knows that the climate is hotter than a clothing-optional anti
Israel rally!

THERE'S A 997% CONSENSUS!

The only thing that might help is a boatload of new taxes on the
people with the least money, the least power & smallest "CO2
footprint."
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-11-19 22:08:51 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Post by AlleyCat
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds
So that's proof that the earth is super heated... isn't it?
Oh my Greta!  The paper must be faked! FAKED! Because *Everybody*
knows that the climate is hotter than a clothing-optional anti
Israel rally!
THERE'S A 997% CONSENSUS!
The only thing that might help is a boatload of new taxes on the
people with the least money, the least power & smallest "CO2
footprint."
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>

Check out the data.
AlleyCat
2024-11-19 22:58:20 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-19 23:13:35 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
You mean refutation snipped:


<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>

Check out the data.
AlleyCat
2024-11-21 13:09:49 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:35 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.

"The EU weather service Copernicus admitted recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979'. At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

I'll trust a NON-U.S. funded entity over NASA and ESPECIALLY a government-funded University, EVERY day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

When you're getting paid by the government, there is NO way to be objective. NASA is known for their data manipulation.

NASA has manipulated historical temperature data to show a dramatic increase in temperature, especially since the year 2000.

Comparing NASA charts from the years 2000, 2017, and 2019, Heller shows data has been manipulated multiple times since the year 2000.
Heller shows, with NASA's OWN DATA, that the space agency has been adjusting temperatures from the past - temperatures from as long ago as
the mid-1800s - downward, while adjusting current-day temperatures upward, and those changes are responsible for most of the claimed global
warming during that time. In the year 2000, historical data showed a .5 degree Celsius increase from the mid-1800s to the year 2000. In
2017, the same agency's historical temperature data showed a 1.5C increase and just two years later a 2.0 C increase. In each of those time
frames, older temperatures are pushed slightly downward.

The 2017 to 2019 rise in temperature is especially confusing when you add the fact that satellite temperature data shows a global decrease
in land temperature for the last two years. As well, satellite data adds to the case of fraud in another way: According to satellite data,
since the year 2000, land temperatures have increased by .2 degrees Celsius, but NASA's latest chart says that temperatures increased by
1.5 degrees Celsius since 2000. So more than 80 percent of the change in temperature since the year 2000 is the result of temperature data
manipulation.

"They've quadrupled warming mainly by cooling past temperatures and warming present temperatures," Heller said in a video released on
Monday.

Moreover, the entire Medieval Warm Period has disappeared. The Medieval Warm Period, which has lots of scientific and historical evidence
to show it happened - and which was prominent in a 1990 IPCC graph - has been adjusted out of existence. Climate alarmists can't have a
Medieval Warm Period, since it casts so much doubt on the current theory that man is causing a current upward temperature swing. The
Medieval Warm Period occurred before man could reasonably be blamed for it. That's why in 1999 when Michael Mann released his infamous
"hockey stick graph," the Medieval Warm Period was suddenly gone. Thus did Mann create a non-existent global-warming 'tipping point" based
on CO2, starting in the late 19th century.

"If we had high temperatures when CO2 was low, that would indicate that other factors in the climate are much stronger than carbon
dioxide," Heller pointed out.

The CO2 tipping point farce goes beyond Michael Mann's skulduggery. A 2006 statement by Dr. David Deming revealed that as early as 1995
scientists were facing pressure to "get rid of" the Medieval Warm Period. "I had another interesting experience around the time my paper in
Science was published. I received an astonishing e-mail from a major researcher in the area of climate change. He said, "We have to get rid
of the Medieval Warm Period," Deming told the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works.

(Interesting side note: When you click on the link to Deming's 2002 testimony, the browser says, "Page cannot be found." Question: Has it
been purged, and if so, why?)

"When you're willing to manipulate data you can show any result you want, and they wanted to show warming," Heller concluded.

British economist Ronald Coase once quipped, "Torture the data, and it will confess to anything." While Coase's quote was about economics,
it definitely applies to natural science as well. As Heller's well-researched charts show, today's climate-alarmist scientists are more
than willing to 'torture" the data to achieve their desired results.

There are several examples of doctored historical temperature data. Besides NASA, we know that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) has done it. We know that the HadCRUT 4 data used by the UNIPCC contained at least 70 obvious errors, according to a
2018 audit by climate-data researcher Dr. John Mclean.

And the data tampering isn't limited to temperature either. Sea-level rise data is tampered with as well.

The willingness of scientists such as Mann and others to completely change historical data to show rapid warming is scientific quackery of
the highest order. And that willingness doesn't just make them bad scientists; it makes them liars.

=====

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-21 23:19:37 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:35 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.
I just did.
AlleyCat
2024-11-22 14:45:56 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:19:37 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:35 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:51 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Check out the data.
No refutation noted... thank you.
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.
I just did.
http://youtu.be/RqJVa0fl01w

Two outta three IS bad.

=====

November:

UK Issued Fresh Snow Warnings

Global Cooling And Storminess

New Nature Study Reveals Early-20th-Century Oceans Were Warmer, Challenging AGW Narratives

Record Cold And Heavy Snow Grip The UK

Norway Chills

Harsh Freeze Sweeps Siberia And Mongolia

New Study: Decades Of Stable Greenland Temperatures Undermine Climate Alarm

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Siri Cruise
2024-11-19 22:22:55 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Oh my Greta!  The paper must be faked! FAKED! Because *Everybody*
knows that the climate is hotter than a clothing-optional anti
Israel rally!
Is that climate change you are whining about?
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Alan
2024-11-19 22:08:32 UTC
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On 2024-11-19 06:11, AlleyCat wrote:

An unsourced article, but I'll play!

<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-
ice-graph>

Antarctic sea ice for the last two years have been lower than than ever
year since 1979.

So I don't know how your "scientific paper" found different.
Post by AlleyCat
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds
Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of
continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year,
four environmental scientists further state that any sign that
humans are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of
course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea
ice in Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last
year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the
Financial Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the
entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental
events... that will affect climate around the world".
Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a
"prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed
by a short period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then
resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These
variations, which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a
number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is
known of course, with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting
recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year
variability and no clear long-term trend since 1979". At the other
end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical
decline in Arctic sea ice "has levelled off since 2007".
It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists.
Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the
U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full
activist mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so
far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not
perhaps as confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was
part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early
Nimbus photographic data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea
ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen
again until 2014, and a low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At
the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are
not that unusual".
During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it
showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed
resistant to global warming". Still does, those striving for
accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70
years.
One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero
fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are
being exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades,
alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that
started in 1974. At this time, two scientists claimed that the
widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was
destroying the protective ozone layer in the atmosphere.
Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered
over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by international agreement in
1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work,
and activists claimed it was all a great triumph showing what could
be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The
Nobels were accepted and the activists moved onto other scares and
proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that
kept on expanding and contracting as it has always done, and this
year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years.
Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work here.
As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement
about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There
has been a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year
temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural
variations seen often in the past.
Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete
temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of
sea temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back
less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in
many Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/
invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual
temperature recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban
heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a
national high set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a
RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that
temperatures were as high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000
years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by
temperatures at least 3°C higher than those experienced today. Again
it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the
dominant role in controlling the climate thermostat.
Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set
great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner.
Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in
Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence
to report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant
greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any
'extreme' weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood
even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers,
every year no less, such is the volume to process.
The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as
citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with
rocks. Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons.
Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the
scientific process when it comes to climate has been trashed for
decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled'
science narrative.
=====
Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season
La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA
Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode
Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come
India Chills
Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.
Accumulations In Kashmir
Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe
Yakutia's Deep Freeze
South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939
Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado
Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average
4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued
Al Gore Copes
Summer Snow In South Africa
Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand
There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji
Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China
Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow
Global Temperatures Cooled In October
Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India
Russia Suffers -40.1c
Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity
October Snows Blanket Whitehorse
Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage
Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds
Early Winter Hits Northern Europe
Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco
Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow
Early Snows Hit Pakistan
Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall
Expanding Polar Sea Ice
Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand
Eastern Russia Buried
Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
AlleyCat
2024-11-19 22:58:21 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:32 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
An unsourced article, but I'll play!
No refutation noted... thank you.

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
levelled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

=====

November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-19 23:13:59 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 14:08:32 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
An unsourced article, but I'll play!
No refutation noted... thank you.
You mean "refutation snipped":


<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>

Check out the data.
AlleyCat
2024-11-21 13:10:09 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.

=====

November:

UK Issued Fresh Snow Warnings

Global Cooling And Storminess

New Nature Study Reveals Early-20th-Century Oceans Were Warmer, Challenging AGW Narratives

Record Cold And Heavy Snow Grip The UK

Norway Chills

Harsh Freeze Sweeps Siberia And Mongolia

New Study: Decades Of Stable Greenland Temperatures Undermine Climate Alarm

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-21 23:20:06 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.
It's a graph already, doofus.

Showing that you didn't even bother to look before replying.
AlleyCat
2024-11-22 14:45:26 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:20:06 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.
It's a graph already, doofus.
Showing that you didn't even bother to look before replying.
But you didn't do what I asked, so PLONK!

So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.

I see no graph that YOU made from clicking on all the years and showing the study to be wrong.



So... PLONK!

=====

November:

UK Issued Fresh Snow Warnings

Global Cooling And Storminess

New Nature Study Reveals Early-20th-Century Oceans Were Warmer, Challenging AGW Narratives

Record Cold And Heavy Snow Grip The UK

Norway Chills

Harsh Freeze Sweeps Siberia And Mongolia

New Study: Decades Of Stable Greenland Temperatures Undermine Climate Alarm

U.S. Snow Spreading East

UK Snow Builds, Farmers Protest Regardless

Mountain Snowpack Above Average

Winter Deepens Across India

Europe: Record Lows, Snowstorms, And Power Cuts

Feet Upon Feet Of U.S. Snow

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
Alan
2024-11-22 20:34:34 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:20:06 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:13:59 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
<https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
Check out the data.
Graph out the data.
It's a graph already, doofus.
Showing that you didn't even bother to look before replying.
But you didn't do what I asked, so PLONK!
So... click on all years, graph it out, and show us how this article and study are all lies.
I see no graph that YOU made from clicking on all the years and showing the study to be wrong.
http://youtu.be/RqJVa0fl01w
So... PLONK!
Did I say I made a graph, doofus?

I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
AlleyCat
2024-11-22 21:38:25 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:34:34 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
So... PLONK!
Did I say I made a graph, doofus?
Yes.

I axed you to: "So... click on all years, GRAPH IT OUT (that means put it into software and GRAPH IT OUT), and show us how this article and study are
all lies.

And YOU said: "I just did."

Want a pitcher of it?

Gots one ov dem to.

So... unless you graph out each year put em all toogedder... AND show the study to be wrong...

... PLONK!

=====

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.

A Second Trump Administration
Alan
2024-11-22 22:06:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 12:34:34 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
So... PLONK!
Did I say I made a graph, doofus?
Yes.
I axed you to: "So... click on all years, GRAPH IT OUT (that means
put it into software and GRAPH IT OUT), and show us how this article
and study are all lies.
Post by Alan
And YOU said: "I just did."
I just did "show [you] how the article and study [were] all lies", doofus.

I showed you a website WITH a graph so there was no need for me to
"graph it out".
Post by AlleyCat
Want a pitcher of it?
Gots one ov dem to.
So... unless you graph out each year put em all toogedder... AND
show the study to be wrong...
The graph is there on a webpage, and when you turn on all the years, it
shows your article to be wrong.

Deal with reality for once.
AlleyCat
2024-11-23 18:46:58 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:06:04 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Deal with reality for once.
I am...

LOL... Just because 23 and 24 are lower than the rest, does NOT mean the trend isn't up.

This is why I axed you to graph it ALL out and give us a trend-line.

How on EARTH is 2014's ice total higher than...

2013
2012
2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997
1996
1995
1994
1993
1992
1991
1990
1989
1988
1987
1986
1985
1984
1983
1982
1981
1980
1979

... in a warming world?

And 2013 is higher than...

2012
2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997
1996
1995
1994
1993
1992
1991
1990
1989
1988
1987
1986
1985
1984
1983
1982
1981
1980
1979

... in a warming world?

Graph it out chicken shit.

And show us how YOU think you know what these scientists don't.

Mirror:
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper ...
https://iowaclimate.org/2024/11/16/antarctica-sea-ice-has-slowly-increased-since-1979-science-paper-finds/
7 days ago - From THE DAILY SCEPTIC by Chris Morrison Sea ice around Antarctica has "slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite
recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists
further

=====

BLM/Drag Queen/Gay/Socialist/Antifa Fascist/Marxist/Communist/Racist/ Insurrectionist/Liberal Democrats:

"They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. That's a fact."
https://i.imgur.com/DhrzBe8.mp4

Now, THAT was incitement. Trump said go peacefully and PATRIOTICALLY.

It was our RIGHT to protest as violently as ANY BLM or ANTIFA riot... right?

We have the right to "fight for our country".

"But when a LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS (election cheating), pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a
Design to reduce them UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM (Democrats), it is THEIR RIGHT, it is THEIR DUTY, to THROW OFF SUCH
GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future Security." - Declaration of Independence.

No insurrection... just the people exercising their RIGHTS. Oh yeah... WHO said,

Trumps "fight" words, were the EXACT same thing Democrats meant when THEY said: "Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and
peaceful." (see below)

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1566119906738933760/pu/vid/1280x720/63Utqp7jn7s2X_LF.mp4?tag=12
"I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, maybe there will be."
"People need to start takng to the streets."
"You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives."

"Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful." - Chris Cuomo

"When they go low, we kick them."
"How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck?"
"I thought he should have punched him in the face."
"I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."
"Punch some people in the face."
"When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?"
"Look as his character is stabbed to death."
"Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?"
"I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House."
"A Missouri State Senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated."
"I will go and take Trump out tonight."
"And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd."
"And you push back on them."
"They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day."
"If you think we're a riot now, you ain't seen nothing yet."
"How do resist the temptation to run up and ring her neck?" "
"I think you should punch him in the face."
"PUNCH SOME PEOPLE IN THE FACE!"
"And you know why there are no uprisings all over the country, but maybe there will be. Enemies of the state."
"You know there NEEDS to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives."
"Show me where it says that protesters are supposed to be polite and PEACEFUL."
"I'd like to punch him in the face." - Robert DeNiro(D)
"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him." - Joe Biden - President-elect of the United States
"People need to start taking to the streets." - Donny Deutsch

Besides... we have the right to "fight for our country".

But when a LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS (election cheating), pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a
Design to reduce them UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM (Democrats), it is THEIR RIGHT, it is THEIR DUTY, to THROW OFF SUCH
GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. - Declaration of Independence.

No insurrection... just the people exercising their RIGHTS.

Trumps "fight" words, were the EXACT same thing Democrats meant when THEY said:

"I'm wired to fight anyone..."

"I promise to FIGHT every single day.""
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"One, I'm a FIGHTER and I'm relentless, but I'm a FIGHTER and I'm relentless."
"A FIGHTER and I'm relentless."
"I will FIGHT like hell."
"But the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we FIGHT back. That's what I think it's all about. We stand up and we FIGHT back. We do
not back down. We do not compromise, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. You can either lie down, you can whimper, you can pull up in a ball, you can
decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and FIGHT back. And that's what it's about. We do FIGHT back, but we are gonna FIGHT back. We
are not turning this country over to what Donald Trump has sold. We are just not. Look, people are upset and they're right to be upset."
"Now we can whimper, we can whine, or we can FIGHT back. Me, I'm here to FIGHT back because we will not forget. We do not want to forget. We will use
that vision to make sure that we FIGHT harder, we FIGHT tougher, and we FIGHT more passionately for it than ever."
"We still have a FIGHT on our hands. FIGHT hard for the changes Americans are demanding. Get in the FIGHT to winning the FIGHT, to FIGHT FIGHTING
these FIGHTING. It is every tool possible to FIGHT for this change. We'll FIGHT, we'll FIGHT, to FIGHT FIGHTING hard. It's serious about FIGHTING and
FIGHT. We gotta get our front foot and FIGHT back. Problems, we call them out and we FIGHT back. I'm in this FIGHT. I am FIGHTING, I am FIGHTING. Get
in this FIGHT. Get in this FIGHT. Get in this FIGHT!"
"And FIGHTING, we all need to be in the FIGHT. We all need to stay in the "
"FIGHT. We stay in this FIGHT."
"We fought back. We fought back. I am not afraid of a FIGHT. I am in this FIGHT! All the Way! You don't get what you don't FIGHT for. Our FIGHT. Our
FIGHT. We are in this FIGHT for our lives. This is the FIGHT of our lives."
"But we are going to make sure that this FIGHT does not end tonight."
"This is a FIGHT for our lives, the lives of our friends and family members and neighbors. It is a FIGHT. FIGHT. And it is a FIGHT that we're going
to work to make sure continues. It's a FIGHT. It is a FIGHT. It is a FIGHT. And that's what this FIGHT is for."
"Well, I'm wired to FIGHT anyone who isn't doing their job for us. I'm John Tester and you're damn right I approve this message."
"And I'll have lots of FIGHTS ahead of us and I'm ready to stand up and keep FIGHTING. We have to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT."
"We need to FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. And we need to FIGHT. We're going to FIGHT. We got a few more FIGHTS. We're going to take the privilege of a few
more FIGHTS."
"And we have the biggest FIGHT of all. I will never stop FIGHTING. I will FIGHT like hell to FIGHT back against anyone."
"We need to say loud and clear that we are ready to FIGHT."
"It's a bare knuckles FIGHT."
"Now they're going to have to actually FIGHT back against people."
"The FIGHT has to be conducted."
"It's so important that we need to FIGHT."
"FIGHT that FIGHT."
"We have been FIGHTING."
"I was FIGHTING very hard."
"Time is of the essence both in terms of the FIGHT."
"I think we should be FIGHTING."
"Well, I really believe we need to FIGHT."
"We're simply not going to take this lying down. We're going to keep FIGHTING. "
"So I'm telling all my colleagues, this is the FIGHT of our lives."
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
http://youtu.be/XG5BcU1ZGiA
"I promise to fight every single day."
"One, I'm a fighter and I'm relentless, but I'm a fighter and I'm relentless."
"A fighter and I'm relentless."
"I will fight like hell."
"But the way I see it now is that we pick ourselves up and we fight back."
"That's what I think it's all about."
"We stand up and we fight back."
"We do not back down."
"We do not compromise."
"Not today, not tomorrow, not ever."
"You can either lie down."
"You can whimper, you can pull up at a ball, you can decide to move to Canada, or you can stand your ground and fight back."
"And that's what it's about."
"We do fight back, but we are gonna fight back."
"We are not turning this country over to what Donald Trump has sold."
"We are just not."
"Look, people are upset and they're right to be upset."
"Now we can whimper, we can whine, or we can fight back."
"Look at me, I'm here to fight back."
"Because we will not forget."
"We do not want to forget."
"We will use that vision to make sure that we fight harder, we fight tougher, and we fight more passionately for than ever."
"We still have a fight on our hands."
"Fight hard for the changes Americans are demanding."
"Get in the fight to winning the fight, to fight fighting."
"He's fighting."
"We'll use every tool possible to fight for this change."
"We'll fight, we'll fight, to fight fighting hard."
"Serious about fighting and fight."
"We gotta get on our front foot and fight back."
"Problems, we call them out and we fight back."
"I'm in this fight."
"I am fighting, I am fighting."
"Get in this fight."
"Get in this fight.."
"Get in this fight! And fighting, we all need to be in the fight."
"We all need to stay in the fight."
"We stay in this fight."
"We fought back."
"I am not afraid of a fight."
"I am in this fight! Way! You don't get what you don't fight for."
"Our fight."
"We are in this fight for our lives."
"This is the fight of our lives."
"But we are going to make sure that this fight does not end tonight."
"This is a fight for our lives, the lives of our friends and family members and neighbors."
"It is a fight."
"Fight."
"And it is a fight that we're going to work to make sure continues."
"It's a fight."
"And that's what this fight is for."
"Well, I'm wired to fight anyone who isn't doing their job for us."
"I'm John Tester and you're damn right I approve this message."
"And I'll have lots of fights ahead of us and I'm ready to stand up and keep fighting."
"We have to fight."
"We're going to fight."
"We need to fight, fight, fight."
"And we need to fight."
"We got a few more fights."
"We're going to take the privilege of a few more fights."
"And we have the biggest fight of all."
"I will never stop fighting."
"I will fight like hell to fight back against anyone."
"We need to say loud and clear that we are ready to fight."
"It's a bare knuckles fight."
"Now they're going to have to actually fight back against people."
"The fight has to be conducted."
"It's so important that we need to fight."
"Fight that fight."
"We have been fighting."
"I was fighting very hard."
"Time is of the essence both in terms of the fight."
"I think we should be fighting."
"Well, I really believe we need to fight."
"We're simply not going to take this lying down."
"We're going to keep fighting."
"So I'm telling all my colleagues..."
"This is the fight of our life."
"Whose side are you on? Who are you fighting for? They're fighting, but I'm fighting."
"We're both fighting."
"We will fight back."
"We're not going to just take this line down."
"I'm just going to keep the fight up."
"What we have to do right now is fight as hard as we can."
"We have to rise up and fight back."
"And so we're going to fight and we're going to continue to fight."
"I am going to be fighting, fighting like hell."
"We keep fighting, fighting, fighting, or we kept fighting and we did."
"So we're going to keep fighting."
"We have to be fighting every single day."
"We have to fight back and we have no choice but to do that."
"I think we're doing the right thing to do that."
"Fighting."
"And I'm fighting."
"Our job right now is to fight."
"It's really important I'm going to keep fighting."
"I'm asking for the support of people across the country to fight back."
"And you've got to be fierce in fighting."
"Keep fighting."
"Brown have been fighting."
"I've told President Biden I will fight like mad."
"I'll tell you what, now more than ever we have to fight like hell."
"We have these battles on the floor of the Senate."
"I'm going to go down and battle and I'm going to be down there on the floor But we Democrats are fighting as hard as we can."
"Democrats are fighting as hard as we can."
"Credit it in any way but we're fighting back."
"What we've got to do is fight in Congress, fight in the courts, fight in the streets, fight online, fight at the ballot box."
"Fighting and pushing around the clock, fighting, continue to be brave and be strong and keep fighting."
"We're getting people engaged in the fight."
"We're fighting."
"We've got to keep fighting and keep focused, continue to fight."
"This is going to be a fight."
"We'll also fight him and challenge him in every way that we can in the Congress, in the courts, and in the streets."
"To continue fighting, we each have an important role to play in fighting."
"In this fight like so many before it, it has been a fight."
"The American people are going to have to fight."
"And about the importance of fighting."
"I will always fight, fighting."
"But we always must fight."
"Joe Biden has a deep, deep-seated commitment to fight and to fight."
"And about the importance of fighting.."
Alan
2024-11-23 20:57:45 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:06:04 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Deal with reality for once.
I am...
LOL... Just because 23 and 24 are lower than the rest, does NOT mean the trend isn't up.
This is why I axed you to graph it ALL out and give us a trend-line.
How on EARTH is 2014's ice total higher than...
2013
2012
2011
2010
2009
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... in a warming world?
And 2013 is higher than...
2012
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... in a warming world?
Graph it out chicken shit.
And show us how YOU think you know what these scientists don't.
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper ...
https://iowaclimate.org/2024/11/16/antarctica-sea-ice-has-slowly-increased-since-1979-science-paper-finds/
7 days ago - From THE DAILY SCEPTIC by Chris Morrison Sea ice around Antarctica has "slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite
recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists
further
So your argument is based on 2 years being higher in ice than the
preceding years...

...only the last 2 years have not only be lower than all the preceding
years...

...but a LOT lower.
AlleyCat
2024-11-24 04:28:51 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:57:45 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:06:04 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
Deal with reality for once.
I am...
LOL... Just because 23 and 24 are lower than the rest, does NOT mean the trend isn't up.
This is why I axed you to graph it ALL out and give us a trend-line.
How on EARTH is 2014's ice total higher than...
2013
2012
2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997
1996
1995
1994
1993
1992
1991
1990
1989
1988
1987
1986
1985
1984
1983
1982
1981
1980
1979
... in a warming world?
And 2013 is higher than...
2012
2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998
1997
1996
1995
1994
1993
1992
1991
1990
1989
1988
1987
1986
1985
1984
1983
1982
1981
1980
1979
... in a warming world?
Graph it out chicken shit.
And show us how YOU think you know what these scientists don't.
Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper ...
https://iowaclimate.org/2024/11/16/antarctica-sea-ice-has-slowly-increased-since-1979-science-paper-finds/
7 days ago - From THE DAILY SCEPTIC by Chris Morrison Sea ice around Antarctica has "slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite
recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists
further
So your argument is based on 2 years being higher in ice than the
preceding years...
LOL.

No.

I stopped at 2 years.

There were more... IN A WARMING WORLD!

Still valid:

What The Fuck... In A WARMING WORLD!!?? - Impossible!

Antarctica Sea Ice Has "Slowly Increased" Since 1979, Science Paper Finds

Sea ice around Antarctica has 'slowly increased" since the start of continuous satellite recordings in 1979 with any changes caused by
natural climate variation. In a paper published earlier this year, four environmental scientists further state that any sign that humans
are responsible for any change is "inconclusive". Not of course for mainstream media that have been crying wolf about the sea ice in
Antarctica for decades to promote the Net Zero fantasy. Last year there was a reduced level of winter sea ice and this caused the Financial
Times Science Editor Clive Cookson to exclaim that the entire area "faces a catastrophic cascade of extreme environmental events... that
will affect climate around the world".

Over the satellite record, the scientists note there was a "prolonged and gradual" expansion of sea ice to around 2014 followed by a short
period of sudden decline from 2014-19. Growth was then resumed, although there was a temporary downturn around 2022. These variations,
which can also be observed before 1979, were caused by a number of natural atmospheric and oceanic factors. All of this is known of course,
with the EU weather service Copernicus admitting recently that sea ice extent as a whole 'shows large year-to-year variability and no clear
long-term trend since 1979". At the other end of the Earth, Copernicus correctly states that the cyclical decline in Arctic sea ice "has
leveled off since 2007".

It must all be very bewildering for narrative-following journalists. Confusion no doubt reigned supreme in their unquestioning ranks when
they chanced upon the comments last year of Dr. Walter Meier of the U.S.-based National Snow and Ice Data Centre. He was in full activist
mode when he claimed the 2023 winter sea ice dip was 'so far outside anything we've seen, it's almost mind blowing". But not perhaps as
confused as Dr. Meier himself who 10 years earlier was part of a scientific team that cracked open the secrets of early Nimbus photographic
data. These revealed significant Antarctica sea ice variability in the 1960s, including a high in 1964, not seen again until 2014, and a
low in 1966, similar to the recent dip. At the time, Dr. Meier commented that extreme ice highs and lows "are not that unusual".

During the Great 2023 Antarctica Ice Scare, the BBC said that it showed a worrying new benchmark for the region 'that once seemed resistant
to global warming". Still does, those striving for accuracy might note. Antarctica has hardly warmed in the last 70 years.

One by one the appalling scares that have been used by Net Zero fanatics to promote mass climate psychosis in human populations are being
exposed as wishful junk thinking. Over the last few decades, alarmists have taken their cue from the ozone hole scare that started in 1974.
At this time, two scientists claimed that the widespread industrial use of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) was destroying the protective ozone
layer in the atmosphere. Subsequently, an annual appearance of an ozone hole was discovered over Antarctica and CFCs were banned by
international agreement in 1995. The two scientists received the Nobel prize for their work, and activists claimed it was all a great
triumph showing what could be achieved when humans acted in concert to protect the planet. The Nobels were accepted and the activists moved
onto other scares and proposed bans. What happened to the ozone hole, you ask? Well that kept on expanding and contracting as it has always
done, and this year the hole is as large as it has been for the last 30 years. Whisper it quietly - natural variation seems to be at work
here.

As readers will no doubt be aware, there is gathering excitement about the prospect of another 'hottest year evah' for 2024. There has been
a little extra warmth recently following a near nine-year temperature pause with scientists looking at a number of natural variations seen
often in the past.

Hottest year claims are produced from woefully incomplete temperature records that are barely 100 years old. In the case of sea
temperatures, accurate and complete global records stretch back less than 20 years. The temperature data itself, as we have seen in many
Daily Sceptic articles, have been homogenised/reanalysed/invented/adjusted on an almost constant basis. Most individual temperature
recordings around the world have been corrupted by urban heat, while in the U.K. the Met Office seems inordinately proud of a national high
set in 2022 as three Typhoon jets were landing at a RAF airbase. If we consider the proxy record, it seems likely that temperatures were as
high in Roman and medieval times, while 8,000 years ago the great northern ice sheets started to melt helped by temperatures at least 3°C
higher than those experienced today. Again it is difficult not to conclude that natural variation plays the dominant role in controlling
the climate thermostat.

Thoughts and prayers are also the order of the day for those who set great store in all the coral disappearing. Three years of record
growth on the huge Great Barrier Reef put an end to that headliner. Polar bears are just as bad and keep breeding to top up new Arctic
highs. Satellites keep discovering vast colonies of penguins in Antarctica, and mainstream media seem shocked into complete silence to
report that the eyes in the sky have detected a vast recent plant greening of the Earth. There is a growing trend to debunk any 'extreme'
weather claim - the great citizen journalist Paul Homewood even writes a book about the BBC's more egregious climate howlers, every year no
less, such is the volume to process.

The Net Zero project is starting to crumble around the world as citizens make their feelings known with votes, and sometimes with rocks.
Nobody can or wants to live in a world without hydrocarbons. Crucial to this trend is an emerging understanding that the scientific process
when it comes to climate has been trashed for decades and replaced with an increasingly laughable junk 'settled' science narrative.

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November:

Greenland's Above-Average Start To The Season

La Niña Winter Inbound, Say NOAA

Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover Set To Explode

Blanket Of White In The West, More To Come

India Chills

Heavy Snow To Batter Western U.S.

Accumulations In Kashmir

Big Freeze And Heavy Snow To Hit Europe

Yakutia's Deep Freeze

South Africa's First Major November Snow Since 1939

Snowfall Records Approached In New Mexico And Colorado

Northern Hemisphere Snow Mass Above 1982-2012 Average

4 Feet Of Snow To Hit New Mexico, Warnings Issued

Al Gore Copes

Summer Snow In South Africa

Cold Crop Woes In New Zealand

There's Snow Atop Mt. Fuji

Heavy Snowfall Hits Northern China

Saudi Arabia Deserts See Their First Ever Snow

Global Temperatures Cooled In October

Imd Forecasts Severe Winter For India

Russia Suffers -40.1c

Britain Importing Record Amounts Of Electricity

October Snows Blanket Whitehorse

Record Halloween Snow For Anchorage

Europe Set For Severe Winter As Siberian Snowfall Builds

Early Winter Hits Northern Europe

Heavy, Disruptive Snows Sweep Morocco

Mt Hutt, Nz, Could Reopen After A Meter Of Spring Snow

Early Snows Hit Pakistan

Alaska's Record-Breaking October Snowfall

Expanding Polar Sea Ice

Heavy Spring Snowfall Hits New Zealand

Eastern Russia Buried

Early Snow Blankets Mauna Kea
JTEM
2024-11-25 22:10:06 UTC
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Post by Alan
I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
Why are there glaciers?

The Maldives were supposed to be underwater at least 6 years
ago, why aren't they?

Glacier National Park was going to be "Glacier Free" BY the
year 2020. No on or in 2020 but BY the year 2020.

There's still glaciers!

You're in this retarded position where you're defending what
you want to call "Science" when we all know, and even you
know, that it isn't science.

In science, your hypothesis is the basis for predictions.
These predictions are what test your hypothesis. And failed
predictions FALSIFY your hypothesis. There's never been a
moment in over 20 years where you didn't have absolute
proof that your Gwobull Warbling hypothesis is false.

Grow up.
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5
Alan
2024-11-26 03:05:07 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
Why are there glaciers?
How is that relevant?

There are a LOT of glaciers that have receded...

...a LOT.
Post by JTEM
The Maldives were supposed to be underwater at least 6 years
ago, why aren't they?
Glacier National Park was going to be "Glacier Free" BY the
year 2020. No on or in 2020 but BY the year 2020.
And because people got the timing wrong, it completely invalidates the
fact that the glaciers have receded so very much?
Post by JTEM
There's still glaciers!
'Between 1966 and 2015, every named glacier in the park got smaller,
some by more than 80%.'

<https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/glaciersoverview.htm#:~:text=Are%20the%20glaciers%20shrinking%3F,a%20trend%20of%20shrinking%20area.>
Post by JTEM
You're in this retarded position where you're defending what
you want to call "Science" when we all know, and even you
know, that it isn't science.
In science, your hypothesis is the basis for predictions.
These predictions are what test your hypothesis. And failed
predictions FALSIFY your hypothesis. There's never been a
moment in over 20 years where you didn't have absolute
proof that your Gwobull Warbling hypothesis is false.
Grow up.
Back at ya, sunshine:

<https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/nature/glacier-repeat-photos.htm>

'Grinnell Glacier 1910 and 2016

In 1910, Morton Elrod documented how Grinnell Glacier’s mass filled the
basin and how the glacier was then joined with the ice apron we now call
the Salamander (right). Close inspection of Gem Glacier (top-center)
reveals a loss of thickness and volume over the years as well.

Boulder Glacier 1932 and 1988

This is one of the earliest photographs repeated from the park that
shows the disappearance of glacial ice.'

I could go on...

...but you're like a flat-earther on this subject, aren't you; utterly
immune for actual facts?

<https://www.usgs.gov/centers/norock/science/repeat-photography-project?qt-science_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects>
AlleyCat
2024-11-26 15:04:26 UTC
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 19:05:07 -0800, Alan says...
Post by Alan
And because people got the timing wrong, it completely invalidates the
fact that the glaciers have receded so very much?
ALL of the glaciers melted before the Little Ice Age, with nearly HALF the CO². What makes you think today is ANY different?

Oh... yeah... agendas.

THIS Is Why Chicken Shit Chicken Littles Screech About Climate And Weather And Global Warbling:

The UN Makes it Official: Global Warming Hysteria Is All About Redistributing Wealth

UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy'

Global Study Reveals Wealth Redistribution From Blue-Carbon Ecosystems

Failed Climate Policies Are About Wealth Redistribution

"We Redistribute De Facto The World's Wealth By Climate Policy."

How Global Warming Has Made The Rich Richer
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190502-how-global-warming-has-made-the-rich-richer

The U.N.'s Global Warming War On Capitalism: An Important History Lesson
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war-on-capitalism-an-important-history-lesson-2/?sh=4f89a2d429be

The Doha Wealth Redistribution Process Moves On
https://townhall.com/columnists/davidrothbard/2012/12/14/the-doha-wealth-redistribution-process-moves-on-n1465410

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"There is no doubt, that we need to have a complete transformation... the transformation of the economy, and that includes, of course, the private
sector."

A carbon tax will change NOTHING, other than the wealth of politicians and countries who beg us for money. THAT was the purpose of the Paris
Accord... the ONLY purpose.

Funny... when the government no longer pays for bogus money-grabbing data, the truth comes out.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."


"And we're like... the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."

AOC's Top Aide Admits Green New Deal About The Economy, Not Climate
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aocs-top-aide-admits-green-new-deal-
about-the-economy-not-the-climate

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff recently admitted that the Green New Deal was not conceived as an effort to deal with climate change,
but instead a "how-do-you-change-the-entire economy thing" -- a remark likely to fuel Republican claims that the deal is nothing more than a thinly
veiled socialist takeover of the U.S. economy. "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all,"
Saikat Chakrabarti said in May, according to The Washington Post.

*****

UN Official Admits That Climate Change Used As A Ruse To Control The World's Economy
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/diabolical-lie-called-climate-change-used-
un-promote-economic-agenda/

*****

"Unequal Distribution of Wealth and Power" Causes Climate Change
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/un-climate-summit-causes-of-
climate-change-unequal-distribution-of-wealth-and-power/

*****

U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-
destroy-capitalism/

*****

Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-
admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/

*****

United Nations Official Admits the Purpose of the Global Warming Hoax is to Destroy Capitalism
http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/donald-r-may/2015-02-
27/united-nations-official-admits-purpose-global-warming#.V-nGUOM1HmE
Paul Aubrin
2024-11-26 11:55:28 UTC
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Post by JTEM
Post by Alan
I said that the data is presented as a graph already, and it clearly
shows your article to be bullshit.
Why are there glaciers?
The Maldives were supposed to be underwater at least 6 years
ago, why aren't they?
Glacier National Park was going to be "Glacier Free" BY the
year 2020. No on or in 2020 but BY the year 2020.
There's still glaciers!
You're in this retarded position where you're defending what
you want to call "Science" when we all know, and even you
know, that it isn't science.
Those predictions were pure climastrology.
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