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Ted Nugent: Call him Chickenhawk
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Harry Hope
2006-05-29 22:55:02 UTC
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From The Rutland Herald, 5/28/06:
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060528/NEWS/605280335/1017

Ted Nugent: Call him Chickenhawk


Don't you just love the Nuge?

Here's a true-blue, red-blooded guy that any patriotic American could
really get behind.

Ted Nugent is an avid hunter, a member of the National Rifle
Association and hosts two outdoor shows.

Every time he takes the stage, Nugent can be seen waving the American
flag at his rock concerts.

And he's not afraid to say what he thinks.

The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq.

In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also "told it like it is" during the
Vietnam War.

Here's Ted on what he would have done if he went to Vietnam:

"... if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd
have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes -- I would
have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview
published July 15, 1990.

Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn't go to Vietnam.

And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like
a war hero.

In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information
collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he
avoided the draft:

"He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing
but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped
using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked
with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."

It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the
Motor City Madman.

The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining
experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how
eagerly he would have killed, "if" he had served.

Nugent has been a lightning rod of controversy from the beginning of
his lame career.

Here are a few choice quotes from Ted over the years:



"What's a feminist anyway? A fat pig who doesn't get enough."


"Call it ego, call it bragging, call it whatever you want, but there's
only one alpha male and that's me."


"Organized religion is good for wars, battles -- and not much else."


"Foreigners are scum; I don't like 'em; I don't want 'em in this
country; I don't want 'em selling me doughnuts; I don't want 'em
pumping my gas; I don't want 'em downwind of my life -- OK?"


"I don't objectify women. I'd like to think that I'm optimizing their
hardware."


"I don't advocate violence, I perform it."


Speaking of performing, Ted doesn't really rank up there with the real
talent.

The only genuine hit he has had in more than 30 years is "Cat-Scratch
Fever," an irritating, lame ditty that says nothing.

Nugent joins a virtual dishonor role as one of the 52 members listed
as a Chickenhawk on the Chickenhawk Web site.
http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=%20NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks

What's a Chickenhawk?

"They're all for war -- as long as they don't have to serve," is the
official credo of the site.

At the top of the list is President Bush, who the site says, went AWOL
while serving in the Air National Guard.

Also listed are Vice President Cheney, presidential advisor Karl Rove
and Paul Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq War.

There are some other notables on the list, including right-wing
blabbermouth Rush Limbaugh, Fox's Bill O'Reilly, Tom DeLay and a host
of others who love the war in Iraq, but somehow managed to avoid
Vietnam.

Nugent, a well-known sportsman and avid bow hunter, openly talks about
his love of hunting.

Sportsman?

You decide.

Nugent, who categorizes his brand of hunting as "whack 'em and stack
'em," was described as an "unethical" hunter in a story that appeared
in the Wall Street Journal on July 25, 1995.

"He shoots at anything," said a Mr. Cairnes in an interview.

"You should kill what you can use. He just likes to kill a lot of
animals."

(Cairnes is a hunting guide who takes people out to stab wild pigs in
Hawaii)

Ted has also pulled in a few bucks while serving as a "guide" on
canned hunts.

According to the Detroit Free Press, "Participants pay the Renegade
Ranch (a fenced in, 300-acre canned hunting recreation area) for the
animals they kill -- anywhere from $500 for a wild boar to $5,500 for
a 6-point elk. Nugent tacks on a $250 fee for serving as celebrity
guide."

So why, one could reasonably ask, bring up this nasty Nugent nugget
after all of these years?

Under normal circumstances I would not if Nugent just went about his
business of making mediocre music and outrageous comments.

But since Ted insists on being such a "patriotic" supporter of the
carnage in Iraq and such a war-hawk, it was time to put his stand into
perspective.

Nugent could not be reached for comment.

At press time, he was in Berlin for the start of his European tour.

Nugent's disdain for drugs, alcohol and tobacco has been well
reported.

He has claimed, in a number of interviews, that he "never" took drugs.

In an interview with CREEM magazine, he told writer Jeffrey Morgan
that he finds drug users repulsive.

Except when it's time for the Draft Board:

CREEM: "Are you still a hard case on drugs?"

Nugent:

"Real hard. I have never done a drug in my life. I have never smoked a
joint in my life. I took two tokes off a joint with the MC5 one night
and almost gagged and thought it was stupid. And that's it. I took two
tokes off a joint once. I snorted one line of cocaine. And one line of
crystal methedrine before my draft physical -- but God, that was worth
it because I wanted to see the look on the Sergeant's face. That's it
for drugs."

In a later interview, Nugent told about how he smoked just 50 joints
in his entire life.

Ted hosts "Spirit of the Wild" on The Outdoor Channel and is the star
of Outdoor Life Network's new series, "Wanted: Ted or Alive."

He also loves guns.

Except when it comes to carrying one during wartime.

________________________________________________________

Right Wing Chickenhawk, Ted Nugent, Ladies and Gentelemen.

Harry
RobH
2006-05-29 23:09:32 UTC
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Ted Nugent is a long haired Bill O'Lielly.



Bill O'Reilly quotes

"I have been in combat, that's all I'm going to say about that".
"If it was me or them, they're going to die".

Bill O'Reilly never served in the miltary
Dennis M
2006-05-30 01:12:58 UTC
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Good article but it didn't mention Nugent's well documented adulterous
relationship while he was married to his first wife -- he wouldn't be a
genuine hypocritical piece of conservative shit without that.
m***@hotmail.com
2006-05-30 19:30:56 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Good article but it didn't mention Nugent's well documented adulterous
relationship while he was married to his first wife -- he wouldn't be a
genuine hypocritical piece of conservative shit without that.
Nugent also has a taste for underage girls.

He wouldn't be a conservative piece of shit without that either.

www.armchairsubversive.com
trippy
2006-05-30 19:18:56 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, Harry Hope
took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
Post by Harry Hope
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060528/NEWS/605280335/1017
Ted Nugent: Call him Chickenhawk
Don't you just love the Nuge?
Here's a true-blue, red-blooded guy that any patriotic American could
really get behind.
Ted Nugent is an avid hunter, a member of the National Rifle
Association and hosts two outdoor shows.
Every time he takes the stage, Nugent can be seen waving the American
flag at his rock concerts.
And he's not afraid to say what he thinks.
The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq.
In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also "told it like it is" during the
Vietnam War.
"... if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd
have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes -- I would
have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview
published July 15, 1990.
Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn't go to Vietnam.
And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like
a war hero.
In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information
collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he
"He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing
but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped
using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked
with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the
Motor City Madman.
The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining
experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how
eagerly he would have killed, "if" he had served.
Nugent has been a lightning rod of controversy from the beginning of
his lame career.
"What's a feminist anyway? A fat pig who doesn't get enough."
"Call it ego, call it bragging, call it whatever you want, but there's
only one alpha male and that's me."
"Organized religion is good for wars, battles -- and not much else."
"Foreigners are scum; I don't like 'em; I don't want 'em in this
country; I don't want 'em selling me doughnuts; I don't want 'em
pumping my gas; I don't want 'em downwind of my life -- OK?"
"I don't objectify women. I'd like to think that I'm optimizing their
hardware."
"I don't advocate violence, I perform it."
Speaking of performing, Ted doesn't really rank up there with the real
talent.
The only genuine hit he has had in more than 30 years is "Cat-Scratch
Fever," an irritating, lame ditty that says nothing.
Um, no.

When he graduated high school in 1967, Nugent moved back to Detroit,
and began
recruiting members for The Amboy Dukes. Within three months, the band
signed with
Mainstream records and released their self-titled debut album. The
next year, they recieved
national recognition with the single,"Journey to the center of the
mind," which reached NO. 8
on the pop charts.

http://www.80sxchange.com/bios/ted_nugent.html


Be sure to not forget about "Stranglehold", and "Free for all", or
"Dog eat dog" either.

Then there were the hits he scored in Damn Yankees with Tommy Shaw
from Styx and Jack Blades from Night Ranger.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM

NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20

"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."

-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
robw
2006-05-31 02:27:55 UTC
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You're actually playing a "Matchbox 20" record?

You being held hostage or something?

But you make your point well with Nugent's other successes.

I just wouldn't give him too much credit for "Damn Yankees." There were
other songwriters in that band.
Post by trippy
took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060528/NEWS/605280335/1017
Post by trippy
Post by Harry Hope
Ted Nugent: Call him Chickenhawk
Don't you just love the Nuge?
Here's a true-blue, red-blooded guy that any patriotic American could
really get behind.
Ted Nugent is an avid hunter, a member of the National Rifle
Association and hosts two outdoor shows.
Every time he takes the stage, Nugent can be seen waving the American
flag at his rock concerts.
And he's not afraid to say what he thinks.
The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq.
In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also "told it like it is" during the
Vietnam War.
"... if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd
have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes -- I would
have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview
published July 15, 1990.
Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn't go to Vietnam.
And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like
a war hero.
In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information
collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he
"He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing
but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped
using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked
with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the
Motor City Madman.
The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining
experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how
eagerly he would have killed, "if" he had served.
Nugent has been a lightning rod of controversy from the beginning of
his lame career.
"What's a feminist anyway? A fat pig who doesn't get enough."
"Call it ego, call it bragging, call it whatever you want, but there's
only one alpha male and that's me."
"Organized religion is good for wars, battles -- and not much else."
"Foreigners are scum; I don't like 'em; I don't want 'em in this
country; I don't want 'em selling me doughnuts; I don't want 'em
pumping my gas; I don't want 'em downwind of my life -- OK?"
"I don't objectify women. I'd like to think that I'm optimizing their
hardware."
"I don't advocate violence, I perform it."
Speaking of performing, Ted doesn't really rank up there with the real
talent.
The only genuine hit he has had in more than 30 years is "Cat-Scratch
Fever," an irritating, lame ditty that says nothing.
Um, no.
When he graduated high school in 1967, Nugent moved back to Detroit,
and began
recruiting members for The Amboy Dukes. Within three months, the band
signed with
Mainstream records and released their self-titled debut album. The
next year, they recieved
national recognition with the single,"Journey to the center of the
mind," which reached NO. 8
on the pop charts.
http://www.80sxchange.com/bios/ted_nugent.html
Be sure to not forget about "Stranglehold", and "Free for all", or
"Dog eat dog" either.
Then there were the hits he scored in Damn Yankees with Tommy Shaw
from Styx and Jack Blades from Night Ranger.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
trippy
2006-06-01 02:15:38 UTC
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In article <-aKdnX4VSJS_YuHZRVn-***@comcast.com>, robw took the
hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
Post by robw
You're actually playing a "Matchbox 20" record?
You being held hostage or something?
Heh. Naw man, it's not that bad. I like "Damn", good song. I'm kind of
getting into them more. I pretty much start listening to things about
3 years after they come out, after the hype and overplaying ends and I
forget about them for a while. Most of the time, the crap you hear on
the radio are not the best songs on the album.
Post by robw
But you make your point well with Nugent's other successes.
I just wouldn't give him too much credit for "Damn Yankees." There were
other songwriters in that band.
They all can write. I'm sure more than a few songs have multiple
writing credits.
Post by robw
Post by trippy
took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060528/NEWS/605280335/1017
Post by trippy
Post by Harry Hope
Ted Nugent: Call him Chickenhawk
Don't you just love the Nuge?
Here's a true-blue, red-blooded guy that any patriotic American could
really get behind.
Ted Nugent is an avid hunter, a member of the National Rifle
Association and hosts two outdoor shows.
Every time he takes the stage, Nugent can be seen waving the American
flag at his rock concerts.
And he's not afraid to say what he thinks.
The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq.
In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also "told it like it is" during the
Vietnam War.
"... if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd
have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes -- I would
have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview
published July 15, 1990.
Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn't go to Vietnam.
And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like
a war hero.
In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information
collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he
"He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing
but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped
using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked
with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the
Motor City Madman.
The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining
experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how
eagerly he would have killed, "if" he had served.
Nugent has been a lightning rod of controversy from the beginning of
his lame career.
"What's a feminist anyway? A fat pig who doesn't get enough."
"Call it ego, call it bragging, call it whatever you want, but there's
only one alpha male and that's me."
"Organized religion is good for wars, battles -- and not much else."
"Foreigners are scum; I don't like 'em; I don't want 'em in this
country; I don't want 'em selling me doughnuts; I don't want 'em
pumping my gas; I don't want 'em downwind of my life -- OK?"
"I don't objectify women. I'd like to think that I'm optimizing their
hardware."
"I don't advocate violence, I perform it."
Speaking of performing, Ted doesn't really rank up there with the real
talent.
The only genuine hit he has had in more than 30 years is "Cat-Scratch
Fever," an irritating, lame ditty that says nothing.
Um, no.
When he graduated high school in 1967, Nugent moved back to Detroit,
and began
recruiting members for The Amboy Dukes. Within three months, the band
signed with
Mainstream records and released their self-titled debut album. The
next year, they recieved
national recognition with the single,"Journey to the center of the
mind," which reached NO. 8
on the pop charts.
http://www.80sxchange.com/bios/ted_nugent.html
Be sure to not forget about "Stranglehold", and "Free for all", or
"Dog eat dog" either.
Then there were the hits he scored in Damn Yankees with Tommy Shaw
from Styx and Jack Blades from Night Ranger.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM

NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20

"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."

-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
George Washington Hayduke
2006-05-31 03:55:25 UTC
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Post by Harry Hope
"He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing
but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped
using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked
with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
Damn, that sounds like nearly all Bush Republicans.
Post by Harry Hope
"I don't advocate violence, I perform it."
Yes, a typical Republinazi coward. Closet homosexual, sounds like.

---
If you’re gay and you know it clap your hands.
z***@netscape.net
2006-06-01 02:20:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Harry Hope
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060528/NEWS/605280335/1017
Ted Nugent: Call him Chickenhawk
Don't you just love the Nuge?
Here's a true-blue, red-blooded guy that any patriotic American could
really get behind.
Ted Nugent is an avid hunter, a member of the National Rifle
Association and hosts two outdoor shows.
Every time he takes the stage, Nugent can be seen waving the American
flag at his rock concerts.
And he's not afraid to say what he thinks.
The Nuge is also a big fan of the current war in Iraq.
In fact, the 57-year-old rocker also "told it like it is" during the
Vietnam War.
"... if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd
have killed, or I'd kill all the hippies in the foxholes -- I would
have killed everybody," he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview
published July 15, 1990.
That's always way the hippie riock truckers have always told the
moron nuge, that if we meet in the morron Michigan woods
you better have a really big bow and arrow.
Since we are going to crank you and all you moron
deer offf the stage, at 170 dB and climbing.
Post by Harry Hope
Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn't go to Vietnam.
And how Ted managed to avoid the draft makes President Bush look like
a war hero.
In that 1990 interview with the Free Press and from information
collected from the Chickenhawk Web site, Nugent told about how he
"He claims that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing
but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped
using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked
with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment."
It says volumes about the character of a man who calls himself the
Motor City Madman.
The Detroit native went out of his way to avoid the defining
experience of his generation, then has the gall to talk about how
eagerly he would have killed, "if" he had served.
Nugent has been a lightning rod of controversy from the beginning of
his lame career.
"What's a feminist anyway? A fat pig who doesn't get enough."
"Call it ego, call it bragging, call it whatever you want, but there's
only one alpha male and that's me."
"Organized religion is good for wars, battles -- and not much else."
"Foreigners are scum; I don't like 'em; I don't want 'em in this
country; I don't want 'em selling me doughnuts; I don't want 'em
pumping my gas; I don't want 'em downwind of my life -- OK?"
"I don't objectify women. I'd like to think that I'm optimizing their
hardware."
"I don't advocate violence, I perform it."
Speaking of performing, Ted doesn't really rank up there with the real
talent.
The only genuine hit he has had in more than 30 years is "Cat-Scratch
Fever," an irritating, lame ditty that says nothing.
Nugent joins a virtual dishonor role as one of the 52 members listed
as a Chickenhawk on the Chickenhawk Web site.
http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=%20NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks
What's a Chickenhawk?
"They're all for war -- as long as they don't have to serve," is the
official credo of the site.
At the top of the list is President Bush, who the site says, went AWOL
while serving in the Air National Guard.
Also listed are Vice President Cheney, presidential advisor Karl Rove
and Paul Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq War.
There are some other notables on the list, including right-wing
blabbermouth Rush Limbaugh, Fox's Bill O'Reilly, Tom DeLay and a host
of others who love the war in Iraq, but somehow managed to avoid
Vietnam.
Nugent, a well-known sportsman and avid bow hunter, openly talks about
his love of hunting.
Sportsman?
You decide.
Nugent, who categorizes his brand of hunting as "whack 'em and stack
'em," was described as an "unethical" hunter in a story that appeared
in the Wall Street Journal on July 25, 1995.
"He shoots at anything," said a Mr. Cairnes in an interview.
"You should kill what you can use. He just likes to kill a lot of
animals."
(Cairnes is a hunting guide who takes people out to stab wild pigs in
Hawaii)
Ted has also pulled in a few bucks while serving as a "guide" on
canned hunts.
According to the Detroit Free Press, "Participants pay the Renegade
Ranch (a fenced in, 300-acre canned hunting recreation area) for the
animals they kill -- anywhere from $500 for a wild boar to $5,500 for
a 6-point elk. Nugent tacks on a $250 fee for serving as celebrity
guide."
So why, one could reasonably ask, bring up this nasty Nugent nugget
after all of these years?
Under normal circumstances I would not if Nugent just went about his
business of making mediocre music and outrageous comments.
But since Ted insists on being such a "patriotic" supporter of the
carnage in Iraq and such a war-hawk, it was time to put his stand into
perspective.
Nugent could not be reached for comment.
At press time, he was in Berlin for the start of his European tour.
Nugent's disdain for drugs, alcohol and tobacco has been well
reported.
He has claimed, in a number of interviews, that he "never" took drugs.
In an interview with CREEM magazine, he told writer Jeffrey Morgan
that he finds drug users repulsive.
CREEM: "Are you still a hard case on drugs?"
"Real hard. I have never done a drug in my life. I have never smoked a
joint in my life. I took two tokes off a joint with the MC5 one night
and almost gagged and thought it was stupid. And that's it. I took two
tokes off a joint once. I snorted one line of cocaine. And one line of
crystal methedrine before my draft physical -- but God, that was worth
it because I wanted to see the look on the Sergeant's face. That's it
for drugs."
In a later interview, Nugent told about how he smoked just 50 joints
in his entire life.
Ted hosts "Spirit of the Wild" on The Outdoor Channel and is the star
of Outdoor Life Network's new series, "Wanted: Ted or Alive."
He also loves guns.
Except when it comes to carrying one during wartime.
________________________________________________________
Right Wing Chickenhawk, Ted Nugent, Ladies and Gentelemen.
Harry
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