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How Stupid Do They Think You Are, Unum? - Drag In Yorkshire Burns Wood Pellets That Are Treated As A 'Renewable' Fuel But Emit More Carbon Dioxide Than Coal
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AlleyCat
2021-10-09 13:45:10 UTC
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THE SITE HAS ATTRACTED MORE THAN £800MILLION OF TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES

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UK's biggest source of greenhouse gas? This 'eco' power station! Drax in
Yorkshire burns wood pellets that are treated as a 'renewable' fuel but emit
more carbon dioxide than coal, research shows

Supposedly 'green' power station is Britain's biggest emitter of greenhouse gas

Drax in Yorkshire burns wood pellets and has attracted £800million in subsidies

But analysis shows burning wood for power produced more CO2 than burning coal
since 2019

By Colin Fernandez Environment Correspondent For The Daily Mail

Published: 17:01 EDT, 8 October 2021 | Updated: 04:01 EDT, 9 October 2021

A supposedly 'green' power station subsidised with public money is Britain's
biggest emitter of greenhouse gas, research shows.

Drax in Yorkshire burns wood pellets, which are treated as a 'renewable' fuel
and the site has attracted more than £800million of taxpayer subsidies.

But analysis shows that the burning of wood for power - known as biomass - has
been the cause of more carbon dioxide emissions than coal since 2019.

Drax burns millions of tonnes of wood to provide around 12 per cent of the UK's
total electric power, generating 15.6megatonnes (Mt) of carbon dioxide
emissions each year, which cause the planet to heat up by trapping heat around
the Earth - the greenhouse effect.

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Drax in Yorkshire burns wood pellets, which are treated as a 'renewable' fuel
and the site has attracted more than £800million of taxpayer subsidies

Drax in Yorkshire burns wood pellets, which are treated as a 'renewable' fuel
and the site has attracted more than £800million of taxpayer subsidies

The power station is also one of the top five emitters in Europe of toxic air
pollution particles known as PM10.

Currently accounting rules allow Drax to be treated as 'carbon neutral'.

It is argued that emissions from burning wood are offset by the growth of new
trees to replace those harvested for burning - although trees burnt may have
taken 40-100 years to reach maturity.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/10/09/7943065474202158789/636x3
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This assumption, shared by the EU and UK Government makes it eligible for
significant public subsidy.

But scientific opinion is changing, and wood burning is increasingly seen as
making climate change worse. The European Academies Science Advisory Council
states that using woody biomass for power 'is not effective in mitigating
climate change and may even increase the risk of dangerous climate change.'

The research from pressure group Ember also shows emissions from burning wood
now far exceed those from burning coal. Wood burning is now the second largest
contributor to the power sector's CO2 emissions overall after fossil gas.

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Drax burns millions of tonnes of wood to provide around 12 per cent of the UK's
total electric power, generating 15.6megatonnes (Mt) of carbon dioxide
emissions each year, which cause the planet to heat up by trapping heat around
the Earth - the greenhouse effect.

Drax burns millions of tonnes of wood to provide around 12 per cent of the UK's
total electric power, generating 15.6megatonnes (Mt) of carbon dioxide
emissions each year, which cause the planet to heat up by trapping heat around
the Earth - the greenhouse effect

Drax is Europe's third largest CO2 emitter, exceeded only by Belchatow in
Poland and Neurath in Germany. In the UK, Drax leads CO2 emissions, with RWE's
Pembroke gas power station coming in second with 4.3Mt of CO2.

The scale of PM10 emissions by Drax makes it one of the top five emitters of
PM10 air pollution in Europe putting it in the same company as some of
Continent's worst coal power plants.

But a Drax spokesman said: 'Ember's interpretation of the figures for Drax's
CO2 emissions is inaccurate and completely at odds with what the world's
leading climate scientists at the UN IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change] say about sustainable biomass being crucial to delivering global
climate targets...

'Converting Drax power station to use sustainable biomass instead of coal
transformed the business into Europe's biggest decarbonisation project and has
helped Britain decarbonise its electricity system at a faster rate than any
other major economy.'

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2019/07/30/2373086341024792725/636x3
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Records:

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High

Also, in 2021 (To Date), U.S. Has Set 17,450 New LOW Temperature Records This
Year vs 13,886 High

Also also, in 2021 (To Date), Over the Past 7 Days, Thousands of Low
Temperature Records Fell Across the United States

Also, also also, (To Date) North America Has Set 233 New All-Time Monthly Low
Temperature Records In May (So Far) vs. Just The 18 Record Highs

Also, also also, also, Over the Past 7 Days, the United States Broke 3,782 Low
Temperature Records Vs Just the 518 Max

Also, also also, also, also, The United States (Lower-48) Just Set Its Coldest
Temperature Ever Recorded This Early In the Season

Also, also also, also, also, also, Hundreds of All-Time Records Fall Across
North America: "This Cold Weather Is Not Normal!"

The All-Time Record For 'Coldest High Temperature' Also Fell On Monday

Cold Ravages Europe With "Agricultural Disaster" Declared In France, As Record
Cold Hits UK

Record Low November Temperatures Sweep Delhi, India

Spain Records Its Coldest-Ever Temprature (MoP)

Record October Lows/Snows Threaten Majority of North America as Arctic Air
Prepares to Plunge South

The UK Records Its Coldest September Temperature in 23 Years

Bone-Chilling Cold Sweeps Northeast Russia, Records from the 1950s and 60s Fall

Record Spring Cold Sweeps Brazil + a Continent-Wide Polar Blast On Course to
Hit South America

100-Year-Old Cold Records Smashed In Reno, Nevada - This Simply Should Not Be
Happening In a Warming World

Record Cold Hits the Russian Arctic Coast

China Plans Record LNG Imports to Battle Unprecedented Cold

Lake Tahoe Sets Its 3rd Record Low In a Week As Unprecedented November Cold
Lingers In The West

Record Lows Sweep Northeastern United States

Killing Freeze Hits Kansas As All-Time Cold Records Fall

Records Fall Across India

Arctic April Grips North America Breaking Hundreds of All-Time Cold Records

Unseasonable, Record-Breaking Cold Across Country Blamed For at Least 8 Deaths
- Record-Breaking Cold Blast Grips Over 200 Million Across The Country

Parts Of UK And US Suffer Their Lowest May Temperatures On Record

Australia: December 1st Threatens Record Cold And Rare Summer Snow

Calgary Ties Its Longest Streak Below 20C (68F) In Recorded History

Unprecedented Spring Snow Hits Parts of Australia As Regions Suffer Their
Coldest September Temperatures Ever Recorded

Australia To Suffer Yet Another Continent-Wide Icy Blast ? Low Temperature
Records Will Be 'Shattered'

The Month of May Brings Record (Sometimes Historic) Cold To Both Hemispheres

20+ Weather Stations Across China Equal/Break Lowest-Ever Temperature Records
for Month of December

Denver Obliterates All-Time Low Temperature Records In Weather Books Dating
Back 148 Years

Antarctica Just Set Its Coldest March Temperature On Record: A Global Warming
Destroying -75.3C (-103.5F)"

UK Set For Its Coldest October On Record

Katesbridge, Ireland Just Recorded September Temperature of All-Time

Global Temperatures Suffer Second Largest Two Month Drop In Recorded History

Arctic Freeze Set to Break 142-Year-Old Low Temperature Record In Cheyenne, WY

In The Land of The Drought And Heat - Multiple Cold Records Fell In California
Monday

Bad Cold News:

Winter Returns To North America - April 14th

Australia - "Worst Frosts in Decades"

Slovenia Suffers Coldest April Temp In History

Europe's Polar Cold To Intensify Through April, As North America Braces For A
Similar Fate - Grand Solar Minimum

Switzerland Registers Coldest Spell in 3-Decades

European Fruit Shortage Expected

Spring Freeze Shortens Fall Apple Season For Indiana Orchards: "It's the Worst
We've Seen In Decades"

Colorado's Historic October Cold, Turns Deadly

According to the MSM, Global Warming Could Still Make It Too COLD to Grow
Citrus Fruits In Southeast U.S.

5th Cold Spring In A Row

Extreme Cold Blamed for 17 Deaths in Midwest, Northeast; Frostbite Injuries
Quickly Adding Up in Chicago

Delhi Just Shivered Through Its Coldest Month of October Since 1962

Why Is North America Immune to Global Warming?

Lamestream Media Blames The East's Heat On "Climate Change" While Ignoring The
West's Dominating Cold

Extreme Cold Kills 900+ Trees in Montana City - November 4, 2020

Northwest Territories to Suffer "Colder-Than-Average Winter," Warns Environment
And Climate Change Canada

A Staggering 23 Norwegian Weather Stations Logged Their COLDEST-EVER July
Temperature Last Month

Prepare for More Extreme Cold Weather in Yucatan, Mexico Warns Meteorologist

Severe Spring Frosts Destroy Crops Across Europe

Century-old "LOWS" Follow Century-old "SNOWS" across Michigan's Upper Peninsula

France Is Suffering Its Coldest Start to Fall Since 1998, With Additional
Arctic Blasts Forecast

Cold, Snow, And Epic Flooding: "the Weather In Slovakia Is Reminiscent of the
Apocalypse"

Delhi Suffers Coldest Month of November In 71 Years, Since Before The Birth of
The Indian Republic
AlleyCat
2021-10-10 02:39:06 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 12:15:34 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell says...
But the wood got the CO2 from the air.
God, you are a fucking dumb ass. The wood? "Wood" RELEASES CO² as it decays.
The TREES take it in, but that's semantics, so...

Do trees take the EXACT amount of CO² out of the air as burning it emits?

No fucking way. Dude... you REALLY need to think these things out, before you
get so fucking giddy with the prospect of TRYING to make me look stupid.

You only make yourself look stupid.

Dead wood releases 10.9 gigatons of carbon every year - more than all fossil
fuel emissions combined.

Now... how much MORE do you think is released when you BURN it? The wood from
these trees they make into pellets, isn't green and fresh out of the forests...
it's decaying wherever it sits, WAITING to be made into pellets.

So, the carbon "cycle" you're trying to convey, is weighs heavily on the CO²
output, even BEFORE they burn it.

Add the CO² emissions all together:

1) the chopping or sawing of the trees

2) the transport OF those trees

3) the trees sitting, waiting to be processed.

4) the moving of said trees to be processed

5) the processing

6) the packaging (plastics, cardboard, etc.)

7) the transport TO the buyers

8) the buyers' moving or pellets

9) the BURNING of the pellets

10) left out steps

Added up, I SERIOUSLY doubt that trees remove JUST as much carbon as the
proceeding 9 steps to burning, and the burning itself.

Nearly ALL of a burning tree's carbon is converted to CO². Do you REALLY think
that they take out JUST as much, when alive?

It's true... smart people really are the stupidest.

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Records:

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High

Also, in 2021 (To Date), U.S. Has Set 17,450 New LOW Temperature Records This
Year vs 13,886 High

Also also, in 2021 (To Date), Over the Past 7 Days, Thousands of Low
Temperature Records Fell Across the United States

Also, also also, (To Date) North America Has Set 233 New All-Time Monthly Low
Temperature Records In May (So Far) vs. Just The 18 Record Highs

Also, also also, also, Over the Past 7 Days, the United States Broke 3,782 Low
Temperature Records Vs Just the 518 Max

Also, also also, also, also, The United States (Lower-48) Just Set Its Coldest
Temperature Ever Recorded This Early In the Season

Also, also also, also, also, also, Hundreds of All-Time Records Fall Across
North America: "This Cold Weather Is Not Normal!"

The All-Time Record For 'Coldest High Temperature' Also Fell On Monday

Cold Ravages Europe With "Agricultural Disaster" Declared In France, As Record
Cold Hits UK

Record Low November Temperatures Sweep Delhi, India

Spain Records Its Coldest-Ever Temprature (MoP)

Record October Lows/Snows Threaten Majority of North America as Arctic Air
Prepares to Plunge South

The UK Records Its Coldest September Temperature in 23 Years

Bone-Chilling Cold Sweeps Northeast Russia, Records from the 1950s and 60s Fall

Record Spring Cold Sweeps Brazil + a Continent-Wide Polar Blast On Course to
Hit South America

100-Year-Old Cold Records Smashed In Reno, Nevada - This Simply Should Not Be
Happening In a Warming World

Record Cold Hits the Russian Arctic Coast

China Plans Record LNG Imports to Battle Unprecedented Cold

Lake Tahoe Sets Its 3rd Record Low In a Week As Unprecedented November Cold
Lingers In The West

Record Lows Sweep Northeastern United States

Killing Freeze Hits Kansas As All-Time Cold Records Fall

Records Fall Across India

Arctic April Grips North America Breaking Hundreds of All-Time Cold Records

Unseasonable, Record-Breaking Cold Across Country Blamed For at Least 8 Deaths
- Record-Breaking Cold Blast Grips Over 200 Million Across The Country

Parts Of UK And US Suffer Their Lowest May Temperatures On Record

Australia: December 1st Threatens Record Cold And Rare Summer Snow

Calgary Ties Its Longest Streak Below 20C (68F) In Recorded History

Unprecedented Spring Snow Hits Parts of Australia As Regions Suffer Their
Coldest September Temperatures Ever Recorded

Australia To Suffer Yet Another Continent-Wide Icy Blast ? Low Temperature
Records Will Be 'Shattered'

The Month of May Brings Record (Sometimes Historic) Cold To Both Hemispheres

20+ Weather Stations Across China Equal/Break Lowest-Ever Temperature Records
for Month of December

Denver Obliterates All-Time Low Temperature Records In Weather Books Dating
Back 148 Years

Antarctica Just Set Its Coldest March Temperature On Record: A Global Warming
Destroying -75.3C (-103.5F)"

UK Set For Its Coldest October On Record

Katesbridge, Ireland Just Recorded September Temperature of All-Time

Global Temperatures Suffer Second Largest Two Month Drop In Recorded History

Arctic Freeze Set to Break 142-Year-Old Low Temperature Record In Cheyenne, WY

In The Land of The Drought And Heat - Multiple Cold Records Fell In California
Monday

Bad Cold News:

Winter Returns To North America - April 14th

Australia - "Worst Frosts in Decades"

Slovenia Suffers Coldest April Temp In History

Europe's Polar Cold To Intensify Through April, As North America Braces For A
Similar Fate - Grand Solar Minimum

Switzerland Registers Coldest Spell in 3-Decades

European Fruit Shortage Expected

Spring Freeze Shortens Fall Apple Season For Indiana Orchards: "It's the Worst
We've Seen In Decades"

Colorado's Historic October Cold, Turns Deadly

According to the MSM, Global Warming Could Still Make It Too COLD to Grow
Citrus Fruits In Southeast U.S.

5th Cold Spring In A Row

Extreme Cold Blamed for 17 Deaths in Midwest, Northeast; Frostbite Injuries
Quickly Adding Up in Chicago

Delhi Just Shivered Through Its Coldest Month of October Since 1962

Why Is North America Immune to Global Warming?

Lamestream Media Blames The East's Heat On "Climate Change" While Ignoring The
West's Dominating Cold

Extreme Cold Kills 900+ Trees in Montana City - November 4, 2020

Northwest Territories to Suffer "Colder-Than-Average Winter," Warns Environment
And Climate Change Canada

A Staggering 23 Norwegian Weather Stations Logged Their COLDEST-EVER July
Temperature Last Month

Prepare for More Extreme Cold Weather in Yucatan, Mexico Warns Meteorologist

Severe Spring Frosts Destroy Crops Across Europe

Century-old "LOWS" Follow Century-old "SNOWS" across Michigan's Upper Peninsula

France Is Suffering Its Coldest Start to Fall Since 1998, With Additional
Arctic Blasts Forecast

Cold, Snow, And Epic Flooding: "the Weather In Slovakia Is Reminiscent of the
Apocalypse"

Delhi Suffers Coldest Month of November In 71 Years, Since Before The Birth of
The Indian Republic

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