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AlleyCat
2022-01-06 04:56:55 UTC
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Bonus-Bonus: The Reason Renewables Can't Power Modern Civilization Is Because
They Were Never Meant To

On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:53:39 -0600, Unum says...
The project, known as Mammoth Solar, will cover 13,000 acres, spread across
two counties...
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.

Whataya say, pussy-boy. Will it, or won't it lower electric bills?

Oh, and another thing. What happened, Pussy-Boy?

This is sad... the NEWEST AND BESTEST new energy has fallen. HOW can that
BE!!??

I guess it's like global warmING... it's NOT warmING... it's coolING. LOL If it
was warmING, we wouldn't have ANY cooling, or more snow or cooler temperatures.

The "climate" is doing exactly what it's always done... changed randomly, not
linearly.

Wind Power Drops By A Third In Quarter 3

Wind Power Drops By A Third In Q3

The latest energy trends data have been published by BEIS:

https://149366104.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-
content/uploads/2022/01/image_thumb.png

It is quite shocking to see that wind generation has fallen by 38% for onshore
and 24% for offshore year on year. This is despite new capacity being added.
We are familiar with short term drops in output, maybe for a few days or even
weeks. But to lose effectively a third of generation for a whole quarter shows
just how dangerous over reliance on wind power is.
The difference was made up largely from imports, which doubled:

https://149366104.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/image_thumb-
1.png

How long we can count on that is anybody's guess.

Keep sucking that dick, pansy-boy.

Why so darn gay?

You mad, sis?

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The Reason Renewables Can't Power Modern Civilization Is Because They Were
Never Meant To

Over the last decade, journalists have held up Germany's renewables energy
transition, the Energiewende, as an environmental model for the world.

"Many poor countries, once intent on building coal-fired power plants to bring
electricity to their people, are discussing whether they might leapfrog the
fossil age and build clean grids from the outset," thanks to the Energiewende,
wrote a New York Times reporter in 2014.

With Germany as inspiration, the United Nations and World Bank poured billions
into renewables like wind, solar, and hydro in developing nations like Kenya.

But then, last year, Germany was forced to acknowledge that it had to delay its
phase-out of coal, and would not meet its 2020 greenhouse gas reduction
commitments. It announced plans to bulldoze an ancient church and forest in
order to get at the coal underneath it.

After renewables investors and advocates, including Al Gore and Greenpeace,
criticized Germany, journalists came to the country's defense. "Germany has
fallen short of its emission targets in part because its targets were so
ambitious," one of them argued last summer.

"If the rest of the world made just half Germany's effort, the future for our
planet would look less bleak," she wrote. "So Germany, don't give up. And also:
Thank you."

But Germany didn't just fall short of its climate targets. Its emissions have
flat-lined since 2009.

Now comes a major article in the country's largest newsweekly magazine, Der
Spiegel, titled, "A Botched Job in Germany" ("Murks in Germany"). The
magazine's cover shows broken wind turbines and incomplete electrical
transmission towers against a dark silhouette of Berlin.

"The Energiewende - the biggest political project since reunification -
threatens to fail," write Der Spiegel's Frank Dohmen, Alexander Jung, Stefan
Schultz, Gerald Traufetter in their a 5,700-word investigative story.

Over the past five years alone, the Energiewende has cost Germany Eu32 billion
($36 billion) annually, and opposition to renewables is growing in the German
countryside.

"The politicians fear citizen resistance" Der Spiegel reports. "There is hardly
a wind energy project that is not fought."

In response, politicians sometimes order "electrical lines be buried
underground but that is many times more expensive and takes years longer."

As a result, the deployment of renewables and related transmission lines is
slowing rapidly. Less than half as many wind turbines (743) were installed in
2018 as were installed in 2017, and just 30 kilometers of new transmission were
added in 2017.

Solar and wind advocates say cheaper solar panels and wind turbines will make
the future growth in renewables cheaper than past growth but there are reasons
to believe the opposite will be the case.
It will cost Germany $3-$4 trillion to increase renewables as share of
electricity from today's 35%... [+] to 100% between 2025-2050

It will cost Germany $3-$4 trillion to increase renewables as share of
electricity from today's 35%... [+] AG Energiebinlanzen

Der Spiegel cites a recent estimate that it would cost Germany "Eu3.4 trillion
($3.8 trillion)," or seven times more than it spent from 2000 to 2025, to
increase solar and wind three to five-fold by 2050.

Between 2000 and 2019, Germany grew renewables from 7% to 35% of its
electricity. And as much of Germany's renewable electricity comes from biomass,
which scientists view as polluting and environmentally degrading, as from
solar.

Of the 7,700 new kilometers of transmission lines needed, only 8% have been
built, while large-scale electricity storage remains inefficient and expensive.
"A large part of the energy used is lost," the reporters note of a much-hyped
hydrogen gas project, "and the efficiency is below 40%... No viable business
model can be developed from this."

Meanwhile, the 20-year subsidies granted to wind, solar, and biogas since 2000
will start coming to an end next year. "The wind power boom is over," Der
Spiegel concludes.

All of which raises a question: if renewables can't cheaply power Germany, one
of the richest and most technologically advanced countries in the world, how
could a developing nation like Kenya ever expect them to allow it to
"leapfrog" fossil fuels?

The Question of Technology

The earliest and most sophisticated 20th Century case for renewables came from
a German who is widely considered the most influential philosopher of the 20th
Century, Martin Heidegger.

In his 1954 essay, "The Question Concerning of Technology," Heidegger condemned
the view of nature as a mere resource for human consumption.

The use of "modern technology," he wrote, "puts to nature the unreasonable
demand that it supply energy which can be extracted and stored as such... Air
is now set upon to yield nitrogen, the earth to yield ore, ore to yield
uranium... to yield atomic energy."

The solution, Heidegger argued, was to yoke human society and its economy to
unreliable energy flows. He even condemned hydro-electric dams, for dominating
the natural environment, and praised windmills because they "do not unlock
energy in order to store it."

These weren't just aesthetic preferences. Windmills have traditionally been
useful to farmers whereas large dams have allowed poor agrarian societies to
industrialize.

In the US, Heidegger's views were picked up by renewable energy advocates.
Barry Commoner in 1969 argued that a transition to renewables was needed to
bring modern civilization "into harmony with the ecosphere."

The goal of renewables was to turn modern industrial societies back into
agrarian ones, argued Murray Bookchin in his 1962 book, Our Synthetic
Environment.

Bookchin admitted his proposal "conjures up an image of cultural isolation and
social stagnation, of a journey backward in history to the agrarian societies
of the medieval and ancient worlds."

But then, starting around the year 2000, renewables started to gain a high-tech
luster. Governments and private investors poured $2 trillion into solar and
wind and related infrastructure, creating the impression that renewables were
profitable aside from subsidies.

Entrepreneurs like Elon Musk proclaimed that a rich, high-energy civilization
could be powered by cheap solar panels and electric cars.

Journalists reported breathlessly on the cost declines in batteries, imagining
a tipping point at which conventional electricity utilities would be
"disrupted."

But no amount of marketing could change the poor physics of resource-intensive
and land-intensive renewables. Solar farms take 450 times more land than
nuclear plants, and wind farms take 700 times more land than natural gas wells,
to produce the same amount of energy.

Efforts to export the Energiewende to developing nations may prove even more
devastating.

The new wind farm in Kenya, inspired and financed by Germany and other well-
meaning Western nations, is located on a major flight path of migratory birds.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
Unum
2022-01-06 17:01:23 UTC
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And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.

https://grist.org/energy/the-countrys-biggest-solar-farm-is-coming-to-one-of-the-coal-friendliest-states/

The project, known as Mammoth Solar, will cover 13,000 acres, spread across
two counties, with 60 landowners involved. It will generate enough electricity
to power nearly a quarter-million homes in an area with deep ties to the
fossil fuel industry.

Four of the state’s electric utilities have announced plans to close their
coal-fired plants soon. With the declining cost of solar, many utilities and
developers have decided that construction of solar facilities is a better
investment than new coal plants. Over the next two years, at least 15 solar
projects stretching 1,000 acres or more each are slated to go online in the
state, in addition to several other smaller solar farms.

For the small rural counties playing host to these new solar facilities, it
often simply comes down to the money. That was the case with the Mammoth Solar
facility in Starke and Pulaski counties. The tax revenue from the 1.65-
gigawatt project will account for nearly one-fifth of each of their annual
budgets. And for many landowners, the payments they will receive from Doral
Renewables will be more than they make farming the land or leasing it
themselves. Landowners can expect to receive between $600 and $1,000 per acre
per year that they lease out for solar panels
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 03:02:31 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
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Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
You REALLY want me to go there? OK.

Blabbermouth? LOL... that connotes that I'm saying things YOU don't want your
<85IQ'd idiots on the left to see or hear.

LOL... poor Bidenites. They choose THEIR truths, (which are usually lies, or in
the least, HALF-truths), over undeniable FACTS... solar and wind are NOT the
panacea YOU think they are. They will NEVER "power the Earth", as they can NOT
replace fossil fuels in 99% of what fossil fuels are used for at this time.

Oh, they may satisfy your agendas in the short-run, IF your kind keep
screeching that solar and wind will save us all from the EVIL fossil fuels
providers. (fossil fuels are NOT doing what YOU think they are)

But, in the long run, solar and wind are mere backups, especially in countries
larger than Scotland.

Name ONE time electric bills have gone down, even AFTER all this "cheaper"
solar and wind came about.

Oh... the three-ONE - HUNDREDTHS of a penny someone in a CERTAIN class of
consumer(COMMERCIAL... LOL), saved?

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.global-warming/c/gJOqmcFKWzs/m/RQQfx9ACAQAJ

I HAD it at 0.03 cents, then changed it, thinking I was wrong, disregarding the
"cents". WHO trifles with decimals of something that is ALREADY a decimal.

I admit it. I DID have it right, then changed it. Now, it's time for YOU to
admit, that solar and wind haven't cut ANYONE'S electric bills.

Proud of that 0.03 cents?

Three one-HUNDREDTHS of a cent per kW/hr.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
Unum
2022-01-07 05:04:28 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
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Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
You REALLY want me to go there? OK.
Why ratboy couldn't prove it? A few hundred lines of mindless
blabbering sure doesn't do it.
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 05:49:53 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:04:28 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Why ratboy couldn't prove it?
I did. What I posted is relevant to today... yours? Not.

Keep in mind, folks, NONE of this has happened. Because pussy-boy is so self-
loathing and narcissistic, he can't STAND to have someone correct his PRESENT-
DAY lies, so he NEVER posts any.

"on what will be the largest solar farm"

"will cover 13,000 acres"

"It will generate enough electricity"

"to power nearly a quarter-million homes"

"Four of the state's electric utilities have announced plans to close their
coal-fired plants soon."

LOL... they haven't even shut down the coal plants and Unum acts like they did
and solar has already taken over.

"Over the next two years"

"are slated to go online"

"For the small rural counties playing host to these new solar facilities, it
often simply comes down to the money. That was the case with the Mammoth Solar
facility in Starke and Pulaski counties."

So this isn't even about "global warming"?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why aren't you disappointed that they're all capitalists, comrade?

Because you're a gay hypocrite.
Post by Unum
A few hundred lines of mindless blabbering sure doesn't do it.
SURE it did, or you wouldn't be crying about it, now.

Do your MANY hundreds of lines prove anything? Typical homo liberals. Someone
does exactly what they do, then they piss, moan, and cry about it, as if they
never did it.

That is the EXACT liberal mindset these days. Do something no one likes, them
blame it all on someone else. PROJECTION PROJECTION PROJECTION!

If you say it's mindless blabbering, write the authors and tell them,
gaytard... not me.

If you think their words are mindless, why should I post my own thoughts? But
alas, poor yoragay... I WILL continue to post my stuff debunking your future-
boy bullshit.

You're the one posting mindless bullshit, especially that which is set in the
future.

Post some lies about the present.

Oh wait... you've already done that.

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the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions
with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of
notably wild predictions from notable people in government and science.

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50 years of failed doomsday, eco-pocalyptic predictions...

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Update: I've added 9 additional failed predictions (via Real Climate Science)
below to make it an even 50 for the number of failed eco-pocalyptic doomsday
predictions over the last 50 years. 42.

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Doomsdays That Didn't Happen: 50 Years Of Failed Climate Predictions The
conservative-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute has put together a
lengthy compilation of apocalyptic predictions dating back decades that did not
come to pass, timed as Democrat presidential candidates and climate activists
refocus attention on the issue.

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50 years of predictions that the climate apocalypse is nigh

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Nov 12, 2021Lomberg notes that, for more than 50 years, the United Nations and
the media have regularly predicted we're on the verge of calamity. And they
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50 Year Analysis of Failed Climate Forecast Predictions

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50 Years of Failed Climate Forecast Predictions Last Updated: February 22, 2021
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Here's the list - an amazing chronology of the last 120 years of scare-
mongering on climate. 1895 - Geologists Think theWorld May Be Frozen Up Again -
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slowly, with a persistency that means their final annihilation...scientific
fact...surely disappearing.".

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During the negotiations for the Copenhagen agreement in 2009, former U.K. Prime
Minister Gordon Brown predicted that if they didn't solve the "impasse" they
found themselves in within 50 days, the world was pretty much doomed.

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The Liberal Argument Outline

1. Use spun facts:

These can be found on Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and many other liberal
sources. What they do is take facts, polls or arguments and add a liberal spin
in a weak attempt to make bad news for liberals look good. These are easily
debunked and exposed as lies by going to the original source and posting the
hard, cold facts with NO spin.

Note: At this point, you have won. It should never take more than one
post to win an argument with a liberal. It is recommended that you claim
victory and disengage at this point. If you continue, for fun or
experimental purposes, no further logic will be forthcoming from the
liberals.

2. The Next Step For The Liberal Will Be To Attempt To Discredit Your
Source

If it is Fox or any perceived "right wing" source, they will refuse to
believe it. If it is a non-partisan source, they will claim it is right
wing, if it is a left of center source, they will find another lefty
source to "prove" you are wrong. They will not discuss the facts
themselves, as they know they have lost. If you must go down this road
(there is a high entertainment value), don't allow this diversion. Go
back to the facts.

3. The Limbaugh Defense:

This is one that comes out early and often. Although you know they never listen
to Rush Limbaugh and have no idea what he says, they will drag him out and
claim you are a Ditto head. This is another diversionary tactic. It has no
relevance and is an attempt to change the subject. The more desperate they are,
the more childish and ridiculous the reference to Limbaugh becomes: Flush,
LimpBag, etc. Ignore this and re-post the facts. DO NOT BE DIVERTED.

4. The Personal Attack:

Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give
any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
to be refuted.

5. Name Calling:

Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information,
they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side.
Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

When they find out they are unable to engage
you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
them.

Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
someone else that will engage them on their terms.

Now, go away, Snowflake.
Rudy Canoza
2022-01-07 05:51:54 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:04:28 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Why ratboy couldn't prove it?
I did.
You didn't. You couldn't.
Unum
2022-01-07 19:03:32 UTC
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Why ratboy couldn't prove it?
I did.
You didn't.  You couldn't.
Lying little spammer didn't even mention how the Mammoth Solar
project supposedly won't lower energy costs to the consumer,
much less prove it.
AlleyCat
2022-01-08 01:28:15 UTC
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:03:32 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:04:28 -0600,  Unum says...
Post by Unum
Why ratboy couldn't prove it?
I did.
You didn't.  You couldn't.
Lying little spammer didn't even mention how the Mammoth Solar
project supposedly won't lower energy costs to the consumer,
much less prove it.
It's your article... prove that it WILL lower the cost to the consumer, future-
boy.

Your new-found racist and homophobic friend, Rudy, says that if you post
something, YOU have to prove it correct.

**FAGGOT!** - Rudy Canoza
"Fixed your lie, you you no-fight faggot." - Rudy
"Thanks for kicking my faggot ass." - Rudy
"'Self' is redundant, you toothless squat-to-piss no-fight faggot. - Rudy
"I've beaten *you* to a bloody pulp, you squat-to-piss *no-fight* faggot -
every fucking time. You're a zero, as every, stale, squat-to-piss *no-fight*
faggot who incessantly bleats about "mommy's basement" *ALWAYS* is." - Rudy
"... you you no-fight faggot." - Rudy
"... you toothless squat-to-piss no-fight faggot" - Rudy
"Kicked your flabby faggot ass again. Yes." - Rudy
"You a Squat-to-Piss Faggot." - Rudy
"The disgusting gurgling, slurping sounds below are just the faggots Hartung,
Sanitary Napkin and Bit of Nothingness enjoying a three-way" - Rudy
"YOU lose, Nazi faggot." - Rudy
Candace Owens... (is a) neo-Nazi moron
Candace Owens is a whore...
Ben Carson Is A Lying Liar - Be all those as they may, he is incompetent at
running HUD.

If you say ANYTHING bad about Black people, you are a racist... riiiiight???

So prove your article correct. It's the "Rudy way". Do it for your buddy, Rudy.

WILL the new solar project lower consumers' bills?

https://i.imgur.com/GvqnhwX.mp4

I'm not expecting an answer, since all you climate pussy-boys never answer
questions, PROVING to us that all you post is bullshit.

If it's not... defend it, instead of deflecting with ad hominem, liberal.

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community/

Liberal men are physically smaller and weaker than conservative men - and it's
measurable.

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the culture war rage, even far-left media publication Vice admits that liberal
men are weaker and less competent than conservatives.

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TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/truth-liberals-weaker-conservatives

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives. Speaking of weak liberals,
who can't even stand the sight of history: Texas Restaurant Defending
Controversial Sign Some Are Calling Racist - by Robert Gehl. A Texas restaurant
is under attack on social media for what many are calling its racist décor. The
neon sign hung at Cook's Garage...

=====

Science Proves That Liberals Are Crazier Than Conservatives

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-crazy/

Well, I recently came across a fantastic article about another study of
Liberals - except this time, instead of focusing on the weak males, it focuses
on the average Liberal woman instead. A Ph.D. candidate at Georgia State
University has analyzed the data out of a recent Pew Research Center poll, and
the results are amazing.

=====

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal

https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/05/26/shocker-study-shows-physically-
weak-men-tend-to-be-liberal-n72373

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal. In news that will
surprise absolutely no one, a new study reveals that girly men are more likely
to favor socialist policies. The study, conducted by researchers at Brunel
University London, looked at the height, weight, physical strength, and bicep
circumference of 171 men, along...

=====

Liberalism Breeds Soft, Weak, Young "Men" - Louder With...

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/liberalism-breeds-soft-weak-young-men

by Steven Crowder I know some of you think when I say "liberalism breeds weak,
fat men," that I'm merely politicizing an issue to be polarizing. I assure you
that's not the case. Allow me five hundred words to make my case. I was a
chubby kid. Strike that, I was a jiggly shrimp. Skinny-fat. The kind of kid who
was relatively thin, yet managed to ma

=====

Why Liberals Are So Physically Monstrous And Repulsive...

https://www.returnofkings.com/118536/why-liberals-are-so-physically-monstrous-
and-repulsive

Liberals are not born uglier. They voluntarily remain ugly or become uglier to
fit a narrative. "Appearance is ideology". It takes a special kind of hypocrisy
to call something that is universally seen as ugly "beautiful" and vice-versa.

=====

Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic

https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-
pyschotic-traits/

Jun 9, 2016 Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians. A political-science
journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more
likely to show traits associated with "psychoticism"...

=====

12 Reasons Why Liberals And Progressives Will Always Be...

https://www.returnofkings.com/100887/12-reasons-why-liberals-and-progressives-
will-always-be-losers

Liberal men however are inexcusable, they are either effeminate enough to be
emotionally manipulated or are weak and yielding to social pressures. December
10, 2016 Take The Red Pill Don't forget that Liberal men are usually the
offspring of domineering feminists or divorced feminists and sometimes single
mothers.

=====

Men With Weak Upper Bodies Tend to Be Liberal - Physically Strong Men Tend to
Be Conservative

Men who are physically strong are more likely to take a right wing political
stance, while weaker men are inclined to support the welfare state, according
to a new study.

Researchers discovered political motivations may have evolutionary links to
physical strength.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic
redistribution, according to the research.

The principal investigators - psychological scientists Michael Bang Petersen,
of Aarhus University in Denmark, and Daniel Sznycer, of the University of
California in the U.S., believe that the link may reflect psychological traits
that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to
influence behavior today.

Professor Petersen said: 'While many think of politics as a modern phenomenon,
it has - in a sense - always been with our species.'

In the days of our early ancestors, decisions about the distribution of
resources were not made in courthouses or legislative offices, but through
shows of strength.

With this in mind, Professor Petersen and Professor Sznycer hypothesized that
upper-body strength - a proxy for the ability to physically defend or acquire
resources - would predict men's opinions about the redistribution of wealth.
AlleyCat
2022-01-08 02:54:22 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 20:36:09 -0600, Unum says...
Post by AlleyCat
It's your article... prove that it WILL lower the cost to the consumer, future-
boy.
I didn't claim it would, you lying little jackass.
I didn't say you did, you lying little queer. I ASKED you to prove that it
would, AFTER you told me to prove it.

By YOU asking ME (the all-caps are for your new fella, Rudy), to prove it
WOULDN'T LOWER COSTS TO THE consumer, YOU'RE saying, in essence, that it would.

If you say you never said it would, then, you shouldn't have asked me to prove
that it wouldn't, since you SAY you already KNEW that it wouldn't.

You're not as smart as you THINK you are, pussy.
But ratboy did claim it wouldn't, and now he is running away with his little
tail between his legs.
I am? LOL... YOU'RE the one who runs away from EVERY question I ask, pussy.

When have I EVER run from you nerds? Never. YOU, nerd, are the one who never
answers questions, so it is you, who is the cowardly little puppy.

Answer my questions, coward.

I said that your "Mammoth Solar" farm won't lower costs to the consumer. You
acted all indignant and called me a "blabbermouth", which in EVERYONE'S eyes,
means YOU think that it WILL.

WILL this Mammoth Solar farm cut costs to the consumer?
I didn't claim it would
You lose... again, liberal.

=====

Liberals Are Wimps (New Study Shocks Scientific Community...

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-wimps-new-study-shocks-scientific-
community/

Liberal men are physically smaller and weaker than conservative men - and it's
measurable.

=====

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than...

https://phillipschneider.com/vice-admits-liberal-men-are-weaker-less-
attractive-than-conservatives/

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than Conservatives By
Phillip Schneider on August 11, 2020 ( Leave a comment ) While the flames of
the culture war rage, even far-left media publication Vice admits that liberal
men are weaker and less competent than conservatives.

=====

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/truth-liberals-weaker-conservatives

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives. Speaking of weak liberals,
who can't even stand the sight of history: Texas Restaurant Defending
Controversial Sign Some Are Calling Racist - by Robert Gehl. A Texas restaurant
is under attack on social media for what many are calling its racist décor. The
neon sign hung at Cook's Garage...

=====

Science Proves That Liberals Are Crazier Than Conservatives

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-crazy/

Well, I recently came across a fantastic article about another study of
Liberals - except this time, instead of focusing on the weak males, it focuses
on the average Liberal woman instead. A Ph.D. candidate at Georgia State
University has analyzed the data out of a recent Pew Research Center poll, and
the results are amazing.

=====

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal

https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/05/26/shocker-study-shows-physically-
weak-men-tend-to-be-liberal-n72373

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal. In news that will
surprise absolutely no one, a new study reveals that girly men are more likely
to favor socialist policies. The study, conducted by researchers at Brunel
University London, looked at the height, weight, physical strength, and bicep
circumference of 171 men, along...

=====

Liberalism Breeds Soft, Weak, Young "Men" - Louder With...

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/liberalism-breeds-soft-weak-young-men

by Steven Crowder I know some of you think when I say "liberalism breeds weak,
fat men," that I'm merely politicizing an issue to be polarizing. I assure you
that's not the case. Allow me five hundred words to make my case. I was a
chubby kid. Strike that, I was a jiggly shrimp. Skinny-fat. The kind of kid who
was relatively thin, yet managed to ma

=====

Why Liberals Are So Physically Monstrous And Repulsive...

https://www.returnofkings.com/118536/why-liberals-are-so-physically-monstrous-
and-repulsive

Liberals are not born uglier. They voluntarily remain ugly or become uglier to
fit a narrative. "Appearance is ideology". It takes a special kind of hypocrisy
to call something that is universally seen as ugly "beautiful" and vice-versa.

=====

Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic

https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-
pyschotic-traits/

Jun 9, 2016 Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians. A political-science
journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more
likely to show traits associated with "psychoticism"...

=====

12 Reasons Why Liberals And Progressives Will Always Be...

https://www.returnofkings.com/100887/12-reasons-why-liberals-and-progressives-
will-always-be-losers

Liberal men however are inexcusable, they are either effeminate enough to be
emotionally manipulated or are weak and yielding to social pressures. December
10, 2016 Take The Red Pill Don't forget that Liberal men are usually the
offspring of domineering feminists or divorced feminists and sometimes single
mothers.

=====

Men With Weak Upper Bodies Tend to Be Liberal - Physically Strong Men Tend to
Be Conservative

Men who are physically strong are more likely to take a right wing political
stance, while weaker men are inclined to support the welfare state, according
to a new study.

Researchers discovered political motivations may have evolutionary links to
physical strength.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic
redistribution, according to the research.

The principal investigators - psychological scientists Michael Bang Petersen,
of Aarhus University in Denmark, and Daniel Sznycer, of the University of
California in the U.S., believe that the link may reflect psychological traits
that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to
influence behavior today.

Professor Petersen said: 'While many think of politics as a modern phenomenon,
it has - in a sense - always been with our species.'

In the days of our early ancestors, decisions about the distribution of
resources were not made in courthouses or legislative offices, but through
shows of strength.

With this in mind, Professor Petersen and Professor Sznycer hypothesized that
upper-body strength - a proxy for the ability to physically defend or acquire
resources - would predict men's opinions about the redistribution of wealth.
Unum
2022-01-08 04:50:38 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 20:36:09 -0600, Unum says...
Post by AlleyCat
It's your article... prove that it WILL lower the cost to the consumer, future-
boy.
I didn't claim it would, you lying little jackass.
I didn't say you did, you lying little queer. I ASKED you to prove that it
would, AFTER you told me to prove it.
Here it is, lieboy. Keep on running!
Post by AlleyCat
Bonus-Bonus: The Reason Renewables Can't Power Modern Civilization Is Because
They Were Never Meant To
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:53:39 -0600, Unum says...
The project, known as Mammoth Solar, will cover 13,000 acres, spread across
two counties...
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, you sniveling little coward.
AlleyCat
2022-01-08 05:00:41 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 22:50:38 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Prove it, you sniveling little coward.
Prove it, you sperm-slurping little queer.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
Unum
2022-01-08 05:36:38 UTC
Reply
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Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 22:50:38 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Prove it, you sniveling little coward.
Prove it, you sperm-slurping little queer.
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, you sniveling little coward.
AlleyCat
2022-01-08 05:49:26 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 23:36:38 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Prove it
I already did, weak ass liberal.

Answer some of my questions, and I'll "prove it" again.

=====

Liberals Are Wimps (New Study Shocks Scientific Community...

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-wimps-new-study-shocks-scientific-
community/

Liberal men are physically smaller and weaker than conservative men - and it's
measurable.

=====

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than...

https://phillipschneider.com/vice-admits-liberal-men-are-weaker-less-
attractive-than-conservatives/

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than Conservatives By
Phillip Schneider on August 11, 2020 ( Leave a comment ) While the flames of
the culture war rage, even far-left media publication Vice admits that liberal
men are weaker and less competent than conservatives.

=====

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/truth-liberals-weaker-conservatives

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives. Speaking of weak liberals,
who can't even stand the sight of history: Texas Restaurant Defending
Controversial Sign Some Are Calling Racist - by Robert Gehl. A Texas restaurant
is under attack on social media for what many are calling its racist décor. The
neon sign hung at Cook's Garage...

=====

Science Proves That Liberals Are Crazier Than Conservatives

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-crazy/

Well, I recently came across a fantastic article about another study of
Liberals - except this time, instead of focusing on the weak males, it focuses
on the average Liberal woman instead. A Ph.D. candidate at Georgia State
University has analyzed the data out of a recent Pew Research Center poll, and
the results are amazing.

=====

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal

https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/05/26/shocker-study-shows-physically-
weak-men-tend-to-be-liberal-n72373

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal. In news that will
surprise absolutely no one, a new study reveals that girly men are more likely
to favor socialist policies. The study, conducted by researchers at Brunel
University London, looked at the height, weight, physical strength, and bicep
circumference of 171 men, along...

=====

Liberalism Breeds Soft, Weak, Young "Men" - Louder With...

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/liberalism-breeds-soft-weak-young-men

by Steven Crowder I know some of you think when I say "liberalism breeds weak,
fat men," that I'm merely politicizing an issue to be polarizing. I assure you
that's not the case. Allow me five hundred words to make my case. I was a
chubby kid. Strike that, I was a jiggly shrimp. Skinny-fat. The kind of kid who
was relatively thin, yet managed to ma

=====

Why Liberals Are So Physically Monstrous And Repulsive...

https://www.returnofkings.com/118536/why-liberals-are-so-physically-monstrous-
and-repulsive

Liberals are not born uglier. They voluntarily remain ugly or become uglier to
fit a narrative. "Appearance is ideology". It takes a special kind of hypocrisy
to call something that is universally seen as ugly "beautiful" and vice-versa.

=====

Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic

https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-
pyschotic-traits/

Jun 9, 2016 Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians. A political-science
journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more
likely to show traits associated with "psychoticism"...

=====

12 Reasons Why Liberals And Progressives Will Always Be...

https://www.returnofkings.com/100887/12-reasons-why-liberals-and-progressives-
will-always-be-losers

Liberal men however are inexcusable, they are either effeminate enough to be
emotionally manipulated or are weak and yielding to social pressures. December
10, 2016 Take The Red Pill Don't forget that Liberal men are usually the
offspring of domineering feminists or divorced feminists and sometimes single
mothers.

=====

Men With Weak Upper Bodies Tend to Be Liberal - Physically Strong Men Tend to
Be Conservative

Men who are physically strong are more likely to take a right wing political
stance, while weaker men are inclined to support the welfare state, according
to a new study.

Researchers discovered political motivations may have evolutionary links to
physical strength.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic
redistribution, according to the research.

The principal investigators - psychological scientists Michael Bang Petersen,
of Aarhus University in Denmark, and Daniel Sznycer, of the University of
California in the U.S., believe that the link may reflect psychological traits
that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to
influence behavior today.

Professor Petersen said: 'While many think of politics as a modern phenomenon,
it has - in a sense - always been with our species.'

In the days of our early ancestors, decisions about the distribution of
resources were not made in courthouses or legislative offices, but through
shows of strength.

With this in mind, Professor Petersen and Professor Sznycer hypothesized that
upper-body strength - a proxy for the ability to physically defend or acquire
resources - would predict men's opinions about the redistribution of wealth.
Rudy Canoza
2022-01-08 05:54:11 UTC
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On 1/7/2022 9:49 PM, the mental defective AlleyPussyBitch aka Neutered Pussy —
*NOT* a three letter athlete, was *NEVER* a bouncer, *NEVER* a golf pro, *NEVER*
a lifeguard, *NEVER* dunked a basketball, and has *NEVER* been laid, but just a
Post by AlleyCat
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 23:36:38 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Prove it
I already did,
You didn't, rat-boi. You would not have had *any* idea how to do so.
Rudy Canoza
2022-01-07 05:58:10 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:04:28 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Why ratboy couldn't prove it?
I did.
You didn't. You didn't have a fucking hope in hell of proving it.

You really suck. Of course, given that you're a squat-to-piss *no-fight*
pursed-lips faggot, that's to be expected.

What a fucking zero you are! "Organization: AlleyCat Computing" — what a sick
fucking joke *that* is!
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:22:03 UTC
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Permalink
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:58:10 -0800, Rudy Canoza says...

I did.

But I really didn't HAVE to.

NO WHERE on the net, is the story of how CONSUMERS' electricity bills have gone
down.

No where.

But...

Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices ...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/04/25/yes-solar-and-
wind-really-do-increase-electricity-prices-and-for-inherently-physical-reasons

Apr 25, 2018In Nevada, electricity prices fell 15 percent while electricity
from solar and wind grew from 1 to 12 percent, between 2009 and 2017. However,
it is neither remarkable that there are outlier ...

=====

Five graphs that show how the high-cost wind and solar are ...

https://www.americanexperiment.org/five-graphs-that-show-how-the-high-cost-
wind-and-solar-are-driving-up-xcel-energy-costs-for-minnesotans

Even worse, this means electricity bills will be roughly 21 percent higher in
2024 than in 2020, despite Xcel projecting monthly household KWh to decrease by
11.5 percent. The graph below shows that Xcel residential electricity bills
have increased by over 100 percent since their 2004 low, despite monthly
household electricity usage dropping ...

=====

Household energy bills set to rise by up to £900 a year in ...

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-09/household-energy-bills-set-to-rise-by-up-
to-900-a-year-in-april

The rise in energy bills is driven by market forces. Demand for fossil fuels
exploded as countries around the world unlocked. Without the energy cap, price
rises would have been passed on to...

=====

Dominion bills have soared - and are set to rise even ...

https://www.dailypress.com/business/dp-nw-dominion-bills-20200819-
ti2zzpjh2zgarackayjlyy5o2i-story.html

If not for 2018 legislation that required the SCC to look at four years instead
of three years of profits, that excess would have required a $256.8 million
refund to Dominion customers, the SCC...

Dominion Energy customers? monthly electric bills have jumped nearly 29% since
2007 under a series of electric utility-backed bills enacted since then ? and
look set to rise another 45% over the next decade, the State Corporation
Commission said.

=====

Cheap renewables to keep pushing power bills down, even ...

https://reneweconomy.com.au/cheap-renewables-to-keep-pushing-power-bills-down-
even-after-liddell-exit

This will be largely driven by a projected 19.7 per cent (or $92) fall in
wholesale electricity prices - wholesale prices make up just over one-third of
the cost of residential power bills ...

LOL... WHOLESALE PRICES!!!!!!!!!!!!

============================================================================

There Are Several Theories For Why Rudy Can't Stop Lying

Rudy's An Undeserved Narcissist

Narcissists are often pathological liars, because they simply don't care about
the truth.

They prefer to tell lies and gain control over people than be honest.

Sometimes, compulsive liars are highly impulsive people who struggle to take
the time to think things through and tell the truth.

Lying doesn't necessarily make you a bad person, but it could be a sign of
something more sinister.

By the age of three or four, we all start to lie. At this point in our brain's
development, we learn that we have an incredibly versatile and powerful tool at
our disposal - our language - and we can use it to actually play with reality
and affect the outcome of what's happening.

Sooner or later we learn that lying is "bad," and we shouldn't really do it.
But if Jim Carey's "Liar Liar" taught us anything, it's that this just isn't
feasible. We all have to lie sometimes.

But some people are pathological liars, meaning they can't stop spreading
misinformation about themselves and others. The psychological reasons for why
some people are this way is a bit of a mystery, but in the third edition of the
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pathological lying is a
disorder in its own right, as well as a symptom of personality disorders like
psychopathy and narcissism.

"I think it comes from a defect in the neurological wiring in terms of what
causes us to have compassion and empathy," psychiatrist Judith Orloff, author
of "The Empath's Survival Guide," told Business Insider. "Because narcissists,
sociopaths, and psychopaths have what's called empathy deficient disorder,
meaning they don't feel empathy in the way we would."

The Truth Doesn't Matter to Narcissists

When you don't care about other people, lies don't seem to matter. A lack of
empathy essentially means a lack of conscience, which is a hard concept to
grasp for a lot of people.

"When they lie it doesn't hurt them in the same way it would hurt us," Orloff
said. "So many people get into relationships with pathological liars, or just
can't understand why they're lying, because they're trying to fit these people
into the ordinary standards of what it means to be empathetic."

But they don't fit. In fact, they may not even realize they are lying half the
time, because they're not conscious of it. Orloff said they actually believe
they are telling the truth a lot of the time. It's not so much about the fact
itself, she said, as it is about wanting to have power over somebody.

This is extremely dangerous for highly sensitive people, because they attract
narcissists. Then when they see someone is lying, they try and figure it out,
or blame themselves. Once the lies start, it can end with the victim being
gaslighted, which is essentially when they are told over and over again that
their version of reality is incorrect, and they begin to believe the warped
truth of the abuser.

"The great power of relationships is when you can tell the truth to one
another, and trust each other, and be authentic - and with pathological liars
you can't trust them," Orloff said. "You can't base your life around them. It's
like a moral deficit, and there's no accountability. Someone who is a
pathological liar will not say I'm sorry for doing it. They will say it's your
fault."

The only way to escape the clutches of a pathological liar is to be strong
enough to say "no this is not my fault, this is not ringing true to me, so I
can't really trust you," she said.

Unfortunately, people tend to doubt themselves, because the lies can escalate
subtly. It may start with a small white lie, and a few months later the
victim's life with be a mess of confusion because of the web of tall tales that
has been woven.

"If somebody lies, don't try and make an excuse about it," Orloff said. "A lie
is a lie. And if you bring it up to the person and they say it's your fault, or
no it didn't happen, just know there's something very wrong going on."

Psychologist Linda Blair, an author of many psychology books, told Business
Insider some compulsive liars are simply too impulsive to tell the truth. The
impulsive-reflective scale is ingrained in our genes, and it's very hard for
someone highly impulsive to take the time to think things through, just as it
is a challenge for a reflective person to jump into something head first.

"If you're an impulsive person, it's really hard to break the habit, because
you have this terrible feeling inside you that you have to sort things out
right now," Blair said. "So when it comes to your head, you just say it. That
doesn't mean you necessarily lie, but it's a little harder for you to stop from
lying, more than it is for someone who's more reflective."

Pathological lying and narcissism aren't synonymous, they just sometimes go
hand in hand. In other cases, compulsive liars just might not have the capacity
to stop themselves blurting things out. And Blair said they just need to learn
to control their urges and compulsions. Their lies don't necessarily come from
a bad place.

"I don't think it's something they know how to deal with," she said. "We think
probably it has something to do with actual brain function and the way some
people's brains work, which makes it much harder for them to understand the
effect it will have on other people... We think, but we just don't know yet
for sure."
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 03:02:34 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
2022 Will Be A Record Year For Wind And Solar, New Report Finds

(not ONE word on saving the CONSUMER money)

Utility-scale solar and wind deployments are on track to hit a new record in
2022, according to a new report from S&P Global Market Intelligence.

The firm estimates that 44 gigawatts of solar will come online next year,
almost double 2021's projected 23 gigawatts.

"If the current administration is successful in putting the U.S. on a path to
100% decarbonization of the energy sector by 2035, these record-setting
projections are just the beginning," S&P said.

(CARBON is not a problem... man's contribution? 3% -- Warming started this,
when CO² levels were nearly HALF what they are today. HOW can that BE? How can
temperatures go up when CO² was as low as it was after the Little Ice Age?)

U.S. solar and wind deployments are on track to hit new records in 2022 as
momentum behind the energy transition grows, according to a new report from S&P
Global Market Intelligence.

[...]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/2022-will-be-a-record-year-for-wind-
and-solar-new-report-finds/ar-AAQyz72

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 03:02:39 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 1:

Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices -- And For Inherently
Physical Reasons

(A)n apparent paradox: why, if solar panels and wind turbines are so cheap, do
they appear to be making electricity so expensive?

One big reason seems to be their inherently unreliable nature, which requires
expensive additions to the electrical grid in the form of natural gas plants,
hydro-electric dams, batteries, or some other form of stand-by power.

Several readers kindly pointed out that I had failed to mention a huge cost of
adding renewables: new transmission lines.

Transmission is much more expensive for solar and wind than other plants. This
is true around the world - for physical reasons.

Think of it this way. It would take 18 of California's Ivanpah solar farms to
produce the same amount of electricity that comes from our Diablo Canyon
nuclear plant.

And where just one set of transmission lines are required to bring power from
Diablo Canyon, 18 separate transmission lines would be required to bring power
from solar farms like Ivanpha.

Moreover, these transmission lines are in most cases longer. That's because our
solar farms are far away in the desert, where it is sunny and land is cheap. By
contrast, Diablo Canyon and San Onofre nuclear plants are on the coast right
near where most Californians live. (The same is true for wind.)

New transmission lines can make electricity cheaper, but not when they are used
only part of the time and duplicate rather than replace current equipment.

Other readers pointed to cases that appear to challenge the claim that
increased solar and wind deployments increase electricity prices.

John Hanger, a former Secretary of Planning and Policy for the state of
Pennsylvania, pointed to the states of South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
Kansas, Texas, and Iowa as "examples of high wind/solar (up to 30% or more) and
average/below average prices."

My colleagues Madison Czerwinski and Mark Nelson pulled the data and here is
what they found:

For the U.S. as a whole, electricity prices rose 7 percent while electricity
from solar and wind grew from two to eight percent from 2009 to 2017

In North Dakota, electricity prices rose 40 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from nine to 27 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In South Dakota, electricity prices rose 34 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from five to 30 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Kansas, electricity prices rose 33 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from six to 36 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Iowa, electricity prices rose 21 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 14 to 37 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Oklahoma, electricity prices rose 18 percent while electricity from solar
and wind grew from four to 32 percent between 2009 and 2017.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
Rudy Canoza
2022-01-07 03:10:01 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices
Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices
Same lie repeated twice. It's a lie.
Unum
2022-01-07 05:23:04 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600,  Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices
Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices
Same lie repeated twice.  It's a lie.
ratboy has told us many times that he has no problem with lying. Doesn't
it seem like the price of methane would have the most effect on electricity
prices? Responsible for 40% of electricity generation in the USA versus 11%
for wind and solar. And the price of wind and solar continues to drop.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/natural-gas-gains-47percent-in-2021--will-it-climb-further-in-2022-10897070

"Natural gas prices rose 4.8% on the last trading day of 2021 to settle at
$3.73 per million British thermal units (MMBtu), notching the biggest annual
gain in five years. To be precise, the fuel closed out 2021 with a rise of
some 47%"
Rudy Canoza
2022-01-07 05:35:19 UTC
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Post by Unum
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600,  Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices
Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices
Same lie repeated twice.  It's a lie.
ratboy has told us many times that he has no problem with lying.
I know. He tells us that both expressly and implicitly.
Post by Unum
Doesn't
it seem like the price of methane would have the most effect on electricity
prices? Responsible for 40% of electricity generation in the USA versus 11%
for wind and solar. And the price of wind and solar continues to drop.
If natural gas (methane) is the most widely used source for electricity
production in the U.S. — and it is — and if the price of natural gas (methane)
is rising steeply — and it is — then those price rises are going to be passed on
to consumers. Anyone who has any clue about how public utilities work would
know that. That lets rat-boi out...

My house uses natural gas (methane) for house heating, water heating and cooking
(stove top range and oven). I used about the same amount of gas this past
December vs the prior December, but my gas (methane) bill rose a fair amount.
My utility, PG&E, has an on-line feature that analyzes the bill from one billing
period to another. The reason my bill had a year-on-year increase was the
increase in the cost of gas (methane) to PG&E. They passed that price increase
on to me.

Understand this about rat-boi, the squat-to-piss *no-fight* pursed-lips homo:
he doesn't know *one fucking thing* about climate, electricity generation,
electric vehicles or anything else. rat-boi has been lured in / sucked in by
climate change denial aggregator sites, and he simply regurgitates what he finds
there from the *paid* climate change denial liars. rat-boi really is a stupid
lying little cunt, because he posts that bullshit for *free*, whereas the liars
he cites at least are making money off their lies.
Post by Unum
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/natural-gas-gains-47percent-in-2021--will-it-climb-further-in-2022-10897070
"Natural gas prices rose 4.8% on the last trading day of 2021 to settle at
$3.73 per million British thermal units (MMBtu), notching the biggest annual
gain in five years. To be precise, the fuel closed out 2021 with a rise of
some 47%"
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:27 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 21:35:19 -0800, Rudy Canoza says...
Post by Unum
ratboy
The topic is Solar and wind not lowering consumers' bills, too-stupid-too-
understand, midget.

The Liberal Argument Outline

4. The Personal Attack:

Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give
any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
to be refuted.

5. Name Calling:

Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information,
they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side.
Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

Call Rudy!!!!

When they find out they are unable to engage
you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
them.

Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
someone else that will engage them on their terms.

Now, go away, Snowflake.

=====

When the Narcissist Fails

A Cautionary Examination of How Narcissists React To Failure

Rudy, The Insanely Jealous Narcissist

Rudy, the narcissist, usually has a deep need to be better than everyone else.
This makes him likely to become jealous of anyone he perceives as better than
him in any possible way.

Surprisingly, you don't have to be better in a real sense for you to trigger
his jealousy.

As long as you have any advantage he doesn't have, that's enough to make him
jealous. Sometimes jealousy can force Rudy the narcissist to act in ways that
defy normal human behaviour.

Jealousy is one of the emotions that makes Rudy, the narcissist, both hilarious
and sad.

A Sense of Competition:

A sense of competition, real or perceived can trigger jealous narcissists,
like Rudy.

Surpassing a narcissist, like Rudy, at anything that you are both involved in
or succeeding at something he failed at, can make him extremely jealous.

Rudy Has Low Self-Esteem:

Rudy, the narcissist, may not be jealous of someone on Usenet, who is better
looking, as long as he is confident in his looks.

LOL

But, he isn't, so he isn't confident in his ability to socialize. Rudy is
always jealous of his social and Usenet rivals, who make him look like the runt
child he is... daily.

Actually... Rudy, the narcissist, makes himself look like a child. We do not
need to help him in this realm.

Because Rudy, the narcissist has very low self-esteem behind the mask of ultra-
confidence, he becomes very jealous of anyone who has genuine confidence...
like those he pretends to be better than.

They Are Happier Than Rudy:

When a narcissist is depressed, he doesn't like to see someone happier and
excited, especially if that person makes him look stupid... which is usually
hourly.

This is because he knows that a happy person is powerful. Powerful enough to
make him feel like a worthless turd... that is, until that person makes a
spelling or grammar mistake.

Rudy's self-esteem is so low, that even though HE'S fucked up so many times,
grammatically and spelling-wise, he still has to show his imaginary
superiority, by pointing out others' mistakes.

When you are happy, you became more confident, assertive and clear-minded. On
the other hand, when a person is sad or depressed, he usually feels weak and
vulnerable, like Rudy, who lashes out at those he sees as his superiors.

When a narcissist, like Rudy is depressed, feelings of vulnerability that
accompany depression make him see a happy person as a threat, especially when
it's a person that he doesn't get along with, which is 99.9% of Usenet, since
he's a homophobic racist, who insults everyone, because Rudy HATES everyone he
thinks is his superior.

Rudy Is Insecure:

Insecurities make a person doubt his ability to keep anyone interested.

If he is financially unsuccessful (well... YEAH!) and believes that his Usenet
rivals are MORE successful (well... duh!), he may be very jealous their
success.

Rudy, the narcissist, hates it when people around him are better in every
possible way. He needs to be above everybody else in order to feel superior,
and have the ability to sleep.

For this reason, he becomes very jealous of anyone he sees as superior than
him, especially when there is a sense of competition.

We Are Stealing His Attention:

RUDY, THE NARCISSIST NEEDS SO MUCH ATTENTION, hence the replies that offer NO
refutations. He only replies to say, "play with me!"

Rudy doesn't have the mental capacity to form his own opinions on subject
matters that are above his head, so he simply replies in the negative, even if
it's proven that the OP is correct in everything he says or quotes.

Because he thinks that he is better than common people, Rudy believes that he
deserves more attention than the average Usenet member.

Getting the attention that a narcissist believes HE deserves, can cause a lot
of jealousy.

Poor Rudy.
Rudy Canoza
2022-01-07 06:52:52 UTC
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On 1/6/2022 10:16 PM, the mental defective AlleyPussyBitch aka Neutered Pussy —
*NOT* a three letter athlete, was *NEVER* a bouncer, *NEVER* a golf pro, *NEVER*
a lifeguard, *NEVER* dunked a basketball, and has *NEVER* been laid, but just a
Post by AlleyCat
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Unum
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices
Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices
Same lie repeated twice. It's a lie.
ratboy has told us many times that he has no problem with lying.
I know. He tells us that both expressly and implicitly.
Post by Unum
Doesn't
it seem like the price of methane would have the most effect on electricity
prices? Responsible for 40% of electricity generation in the USA versus 11%
for wind and solar. And the price of wind and solar continues to drop.
If natural gas (methane) is the most widely used source for electricity
production in the U.S. — and it is — and if the price of natural gas (methane)
is rising steeply — and it is — then those price rises are going to be passed on
to consumers. Anyone who has any clue about how public utilities work would
know that. That lets rat-boi out...
My house uses natural gas (methane) for house heating, water heating and cooking
(stove top range and oven). I used about the same amount of gas this past
December vs the prior December, but my gas (methane) bill rose a fair amount. My
utility, PG&E, has an on-line feature that analyzes the bill from one billing
period to another. The reason my bill had a year-on-year increase was the
increase in the cost of gas (methane) to PG&E. They passed that price increase
on to me.
Understand this about rat-boi, the squat-to-piss *no-fight* pursed-lips homo: he
doesn't know *one fucking thing* about climate, electricity generation, electric
vehicles or anything else. rat-boi has been lured in / sucked in by climate
change denial aggregator sites, and he simply regurgitates what he finds there
from the *paid* climate change denial liars. rat-boi really is a stupid lying
little cunt, because he posts that bullshit for *free*, whereas the liars he
cites at least are making money off their lies.
The topic is
Your ignorance and lying. Yes, that's right.

Oh...and also your being a pusillanimous no-fight squat-to-piss fairy.
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:29 UTC
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The topic is solar and wind not LOWERING the cost to the consumers, gay guys...
not natural gas.

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 1:

Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices -- And For Inherently
Physical Reasons

(A)n apparent paradox: why, if solar panels and wind turbines are so cheap, do
they appear to be making electricity so expensive?

One big reason seems to be their inherently unreliable nature, which requires
expensive additions to the electrical grid in the form of natural gas plants,
hydro-electric dams, batteries, or some other form of stand-by power.

Several readers kindly pointed out that I had failed to mention a huge cost of
adding renewables: new transmission lines.

Transmission is much more expensive for solar and wind than other plants. This
is true around the world - for physical reasons.

Think of it this way. It would take 18 of California's Ivanpah solar farms to
produce the same amount of electricity that comes from our Diablo Canyon
nuclear plant.

And where just one set of transmission lines are required to bring power from
Diablo Canyon, 18 separate transmission lines would be required to bring power
from solar farms like Ivanpha.

Moreover, these transmission lines are in most cases longer. That's because our
solar farms are far away in the desert, where it is sunny and land is cheap. By
contrast, Diablo Canyon and San Onofre nuclear plants are on the coast right
near where most Californians live. (The same is true for wind.)

New transmission lines can make electricity cheaper, but not when they are used
only part of the time and duplicate rather than replace current equipment.

Other readers pointed to cases that appear to challenge the claim that
increased solar and wind deployments increase electricity prices.

John Hanger, a former Secretary of Planning and Policy for the state of
Pennsylvania, pointed to the states of South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
Kansas, Texas, and Iowa as "examples of high wind/solar (up to 30% or more) and
average/below average prices."

My colleagues Madison Czerwinski and Mark Nelson pulled the data and here is
what they found:

For the U.S. as a whole, electricity prices rose 7 percent while electricity
from solar and wind grew from two to eight percent from 2009 to 2017

In North Dakota, electricity prices rose 40 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from nine to 27 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In South Dakota, electricity prices rose 34 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from five to 30 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Kansas, electricity prices rose 33 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from six to 36 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Iowa, electricity prices rose 21 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 14 to 37 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Oklahoma, electricity prices rose 18 percent while electricity from solar
and wind grew from four to 32 percent between 2009 and 2017.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:35 UTC
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Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 3:

Integrating solar on to the grid is much easier when to do when you can easily
turn natural gas plants up and down to accommodate their intermittency. And
it's much easier to do when it is 12 percent of your electricity instead of 20
percent.

But even at low levels, problems arise. According to the research done by Lion
Hirth, solar's value drops by 50 percent when it gets to just 15 percent of
mix. While those values may be different for Nevada, the impact of
unreliability is the same.

What is most remarkable about U.S. states heavy in solar and wind is that
electricity prices rose so much given the huge decline in natural gas prices.

Had natural gas prices not plummeted at what was almost the exact same time as
the beginning of the large-scale build-out of solar and wind in the United
States, price increases in solar and wind heavy states would have been far
larger.

Around the world, from Germany and Denmark to Spain and South Australia, even
modest penetrations of solar and wind, compared to what advocates claim we will
need to decarbonize, lead to large price increases.

Consider Spain. Its electricity prices were below the European average in 2009.
Today they are among the highest in Europe. There is little debate in Spain
that this was a result of adding so much solar and wind, which led the
government to cut subsidies.

Some readers suggested that the contribution of solar and wind to high
electricity prices was a legacy of older, more expensive projects, and implied
that rising solar and wind penetrations would decline in the future.

This thinking requires ignoring both physics and economics. The value of solar
and wind decline in economic value as they become larger shares of the
electricity grid for physical reasons. They produce too much energy when
societies don't need it and not enough energy when they do.

This problem is temporarily fixed through short-term (but still expensive)
work-arounds - like California and Germany paying their neighbors to take their
excess electricity.

But the more solar and wind are added, the problem is worsened, not improved,
which is why the economic value of solar and wind decline as they become a
larger part of the grid.

Moreover, we can see that in places like Germany, which is now procuring solar
and wind at their supposed rock-bottom prices, is still paying massively more
for electricity.


============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:36 UTC
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Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 4:

Germany spent 24.3 billion euros above market electricity prices in 2017 for
its renewable energy feed-in tariffs.
Renewables require a massively larger material throughput than other energy
sources.

Renewables require a massively larger material throughput than other energy
sources. Environmental Progress

For example, solar and wind farms require at least an order of magnitude more
land than non-renewable plants. A single example dramatically illustrates the
difference. California's Ivanpah solar farm produces 18 times less electricity
on more than 290 times more land than Diablo Canyon nuclear plant.

This reality could, along with new transmission, be a significant additional
driver of higher costs, now and in the future.

The cost of land and expensive new transmission lines can be eliminated if you
have solar on your roof, note solar developers, but the savings on transmission
are more than cancelled out by higher installation costs.

What all of these additional costs have in common is that they stem directly
from underlying physical limits with generating electricity from sunlight and
wind. Both "fuels" are dilute and unreliable.

To make up for those inherent weaknesses, expanding energy from solar panels
and wind turbines requires massively increasing the physical footprint of
energy production.

Renewables require the use of vastly more land, longer and less-utilized
transmission lines, and large amounts of storage whether from lithium
batteries, new dams, compressed air caverns.

All renewables thus require a material throughput - from mining to processing
to installing to disposing of the materials later as waste - that is orders of
magnitude larger than for non-renewable energy sources.

As such, while there is and will remain complexity and uncertainty about the
specific causes of why solar and wind make electricity expensive, most if not
all stem from their underlying physical and (thus environmental constraint),
which is the limited, diffuse, dilute, and unreliable nature of renewable
fuels.

And that's something we need to talk about - and deal with - if we are to
protect the natural environment while expanding prosperity to all.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:40 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 2:

What about Hawaii, California, and Nevada - states that, Hanger noted, "have
10% solar or more"?

In Hawaii, electricity prices rose 23 percent, while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 3 to 18 percent between 2009 and 2017.
In California, electricity prices rose 22 percent, while electricity from solar
and wind grew from 3 to 23 percent between 2009 and 2017.

Does that mean that deploying solar and wind at-scale always and everywhere
increases electricity prices? No. In some cases, the high cost that unreliable
solar and wind impose on the electrical grid are offset by much larger declines
in the price of other fuels, namely natural gas.

Texas and Nevada are two cases in point. In Texas, electricity retail prices
fell 14 percent, while electricity from solar and wind grew from 5 to 15
percent between 2009 and 2017. In Nevada, electricity prices fell 15 percent
while electricity from solar and wind grew from 1 to 12 percent, between 2009
and 2017.

However, it is neither remarkable that there are outlier states nor that they
are Texas and Nevada.

Many factors beyond the relative reliability of a power plant determine
electricity prices. We have been discussing the big ones, which include but are
not limited to the addition of new solar and wind and the costs they impose due
to their unreliability.

Texas, for example, is the epicenter of the fracking revolution. Between 2009
and 2017, natural gas prices for Texas power plants fell 21 percent and
wholesale electricity prices fell 21 percent.

Texas energy experts point to the way the way Texas electricity market is
structured, which has allowed some high-profile bankruptcies of natural gas
generators, and a re-tightening of supply last year.

That tightening of supply contributed to a 27% increase in electricity prices
in 2017 and, according to Bloomberg, prices in Texas are going to increase
again. ("Think power's expensive in Texas this year? Just Wait Until 2019.")

Meanwhile, solar plants in Nevada are, like those in California, the most
efficient in the nation, producing electricity at whopping 30 percent of its
rated capacity. By contrast, solar in New Jersey has a "capacity factor" of
just 12 percent.

Nevada thus benefited more from cheaper gas and high solar capacity factors
than relatively modest amount of intermittent solar in an extremely sunny
climate.


============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:41 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices -- And For Inherently
Physical Reasons

(A)n apparent paradox: why, if solar panels and wind turbines are so cheap, do
they appear to be making electricity so expensive?

One big reason seems to be their inherently unreliable nature, which requires
expensive additions to the electrical grid in the form of natural gas plants,
hydro-electric dams, batteries, or some other form of stand-by power.

Several readers kindly pointed out that I had failed to mention a huge cost of
adding renewables: new transmission lines.

Transmission is much more expensive for solar and wind than other plants. This
is true around the world - for physical reasons.

Think of it this way. It would take 18 of California's Ivanpah solar farms to
produce the same amount of electricity that comes from our Diablo Canyon
nuclear plant.

And where just one set of transmission lines are required to bring power from
Diablo Canyon, 18 separate transmission lines would be required to bring power
from solar farms like Ivanpha.

Moreover, these transmission lines are in most cases longer. That's because our
solar farms are far away in the desert, where it is sunny and land is cheap. By
contrast, Diablo Canyon and San Onofre nuclear plants are on the coast right
near where most Californians live. (The same is true for wind.)

New transmission lines can make electricity cheaper, but not when they are used
only part of the time and duplicate rather than replace current equipment.

Other readers pointed to cases that appear to challenge the claim that
increased solar and wind deployments increase electricity prices.

John Hanger, a former Secretary of Planning and Policy for the state of
Pennsylvania, pointed to the states of South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
Kansas, Texas, and Iowa as "examples of high wind/solar (up to 30% or more) and
average/below average prices."

My colleagues Madison Czerwinski and Mark Nelson pulled the data and here is
what they found:

For the U.S. as a whole, electricity prices rose 7 percent while electricity
from solar and wind grew from two to eight percent from 2009 to 2017

In North Dakota, electricity prices rose 40 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from nine to 27 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In South Dakota, electricity prices rose 34 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from five to 30 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Kansas, electricity prices rose 33 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from six to 36 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Iowa, electricity prices rose 21 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 14 to 37 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Oklahoma, electricity prices rose 18 percent while electricity from solar
and wind grew from four to 32 percent between 2009 and 2017.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:28 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:23:04 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600,  Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices
Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices
Same lie repeated twice.  It's a lie.
ratboy
Pussy-boy... the topic is solar and wind not lowering consumers' bills. Start
another thread on Natural Gas.

=====

The Liberal Argument Outline

4. The Personal Attack:

Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give
any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
to be refuted.

5. Name Calling:

Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information,
they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side.
Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

Call Rudy!!!!

When they find out they are unable to engage
you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
them.

Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
someone else that will engage them on their terms.

Now, go away, Snowflake.
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:30 UTC
Reply
Permalink
The topic is solar and wind not LOWERING the cost to the consumers, gay guys...
not natural gas.

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 1:

Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices -- And For Inherently
Physical Reasons

(A)n apparent paradox: why, if solar panels and wind turbines are so cheap, do
they appear to be making electricity so expensive?

One big reason seems to be their inherently unreliable nature, which requires
expensive additions to the electrical grid in the form of natural gas plants,
hydro-electric dams, batteries, or some other form of stand-by power.

Several readers kindly pointed out that I had failed to mention a huge cost of
adding renewables: new transmission lines.

Transmission is much more expensive for solar and wind than other plants. This
is true around the world - for physical reasons.

Think of it this way. It would take 18 of California's Ivanpah solar farms to
produce the same amount of electricity that comes from our Diablo Canyon
nuclear plant.

And where just one set of transmission lines are required to bring power from
Diablo Canyon, 18 separate transmission lines would be required to bring power
from solar farms like Ivanpha.

Moreover, these transmission lines are in most cases longer. That's because our
solar farms are far away in the desert, where it is sunny and land is cheap. By
contrast, Diablo Canyon and San Onofre nuclear plants are on the coast right
near where most Californians live. (The same is true for wind.)

New transmission lines can make electricity cheaper, but not when they are used
only part of the time and duplicate rather than replace current equipment.

Other readers pointed to cases that appear to challenge the claim that
increased solar and wind deployments increase electricity prices.

John Hanger, a former Secretary of Planning and Policy for the state of
Pennsylvania, pointed to the states of South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
Kansas, Texas, and Iowa as "examples of high wind/solar (up to 30% or more) and
average/below average prices."

My colleagues Madison Czerwinski and Mark Nelson pulled the data and here is
what they found:

For the U.S. as a whole, electricity prices rose 7 percent while electricity
from solar and wind grew from two to eight percent from 2009 to 2017

In North Dakota, electricity prices rose 40 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from nine to 27 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In South Dakota, electricity prices rose 34 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from five to 30 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Kansas, electricity prices rose 33 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from six to 36 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Iowa, electricity prices rose 21 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 14 to 37 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Oklahoma, electricity prices rose 18 percent while electricity from solar
and wind grew from four to 32 percent between 2009 and 2017.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:32 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 23:23:04 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
the price of methane
Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 1:

Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices -- And For Inherently
Physical Reasons

(A)n apparent paradox: why, if solar panels and wind turbines are so cheap, do
they appear to be making electricity so expensive?

One big reason seems to be their inherently unreliable nature, which requires
expensive additions to the electrical grid in the form of natural gas plants,
hydro-electric dams, batteries, or some other form of stand-by power.

Several readers kindly pointed out that I had failed to mention a huge cost of
adding renewables: new transmission lines.

Transmission is much more expensive for solar and wind than other plants. This
is true around the world - for physical reasons.

Think of it this way. It would take 18 of California's Ivanpah solar farms to
produce the same amount of electricity that comes from our Diablo Canyon
nuclear plant.

And where just one set of transmission lines are required to bring power from
Diablo Canyon, 18 separate transmission lines would be required to bring power
from solar farms like Ivanpha.

Moreover, these transmission lines are in most cases longer. That's because our
solar farms are far away in the desert, where it is sunny and land is cheap. By
contrast, Diablo Canyon and San Onofre nuclear plants are on the coast right
near where most Californians live. (The same is true for wind.)

New transmission lines can make electricity cheaper, but not when they are used
only part of the time and duplicate rather than replace current equipment.

Other readers pointed to cases that appear to challenge the claim that
increased solar and wind deployments increase electricity prices.

John Hanger, a former Secretary of Planning and Policy for the state of
Pennsylvania, pointed to the states of South Dakota, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
Kansas, Texas, and Iowa as "examples of high wind/solar (up to 30% or more) and
average/below average prices."

My colleagues Madison Czerwinski and Mark Nelson pulled the data and here is
what they found:

For the U.S. as a whole, electricity prices rose 7 percent while electricity
from solar and wind grew from two to eight percent from 2009 to 2017

In North Dakota, electricity prices rose 40 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from nine to 27 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In South Dakota, electricity prices rose 34 percent while electricity from
solar and wind grew from five to 30 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Kansas, electricity prices rose 33 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from six to 36 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Iowa, electricity prices rose 21 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 14 to 37 percent between 2009 and 2017.

In Oklahoma, electricity prices rose 18 percent while electricity from solar
and wind grew from four to 32 percent between 2009 and 2017.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:34 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 2:

What about Hawaii, California, and Nevada - states that, Hanger noted, "have
10% solar or more"?

In Hawaii, electricity prices rose 23 percent, while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 3 to 18 percent between 2009 and 2017.
In California, electricity prices rose 22 percent, while electricity from solar
and wind grew from 3 to 23 percent between 2009 and 2017.

Does that mean that deploying solar and wind at-scale always and everywhere
increases electricity prices? No. In some cases, the high cost that unreliable
solar and wind impose on the electrical grid are offset by much larger declines
in the price of other fuels, namely natural gas.

Texas and Nevada are two cases in point. In Texas, electricity retail prices
fell 14 percent, while electricity from solar and wind grew from 5 to 15
percent between 2009 and 2017. In Nevada, electricity prices fell 15 percent
while electricity from solar and wind grew from 1 to 12 percent, between 2009
and 2017.

However, it is neither remarkable that there are outlier states nor that they
are Texas and Nevada.

Many factors beyond the relative reliability of a power plant determine
electricity prices. We have been discussing the big ones, which include but are
not limited to the addition of new solar and wind and the costs they impose due
to their unreliability.

Texas, for example, is the epicenter of the fracking revolution. Between 2009
and 2017, natural gas prices for Texas power plants fell 21 percent and
wholesale electricity prices fell 21 percent.

Texas energy experts point to the way the way Texas electricity market is
structured, which has allowed some high-profile bankruptcies of natural gas
generators, and a re-tightening of supply last year.

That tightening of supply contributed to a 27% increase in electricity prices
in 2017 and, according to Bloomberg, prices in Texas are going to increase
again. ("Think power's expensive in Texas this year? Just Wait Until 2019.")

Meanwhile, solar plants in Nevada are, like those in California, the most
efficient in the nation, producing electricity at whopping 30 percent of its
rated capacity. By contrast, solar in New Jersey has a "capacity factor" of
just 12 percent.

Nevada thus benefited more from cheaper gas and high solar capacity factors
than relatively modest amount of intermittent solar in an extremely sunny
climate.


============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 06:16:38 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Natural Gas isn't the topic, lie-boy.

=====

Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 4:

Germany spent 24.3 billion euros above market electricity prices in 2017 for
its renewable energy feed-in tariffs.
Renewables require a massively larger material throughput than other energy
sources.

Renewables require a massively larger material throughput than other energy
sources. Environmental Progress

For example, solar and wind farms require at least an order of magnitude more
land than non-renewable plants. A single example dramatically illustrates the
difference. California's Ivanpah solar farm produces 18 times less electricity
on more than 290 times more land than Diablo Canyon nuclear plant.

This reality could, along with new transmission, be a significant additional
driver of higher costs, now and in the future.

The cost of land and expensive new transmission lines can be eliminated if you
have solar on your roof, note solar developers, but the savings on transmission
are more than cancelled out by higher installation costs.

What all of these additional costs have in common is that they stem directly
from underlying physical limits with generating electricity from sunlight and
wind. Both "fuels" are dilute and unreliable.

To make up for those inherent weaknesses, expanding energy from solar panels
and wind turbines requires massively increasing the physical footprint of
energy production.

Renewables require the use of vastly more land, longer and less-utilized
transmission lines, and large amounts of storage whether from lithium
batteries, new dams, compressed air caverns.

All renewables thus require a material throughput - from mining to processing
to installing to disposing of the materials later as waste - that is orders of
magnitude larger than for non-renewable energy sources.

As such, while there is and will remain complexity and uncertainty about the
specific causes of why solar and wind make electricity expensive, most if not
all stem from their underlying physical and (thus environmental constraint),
which is the limited, diffuse, dilute, and unreliable nature of renewable
fuels.

And that's something we need to talk about - and deal with - if we are to
protect the natural environment while expanding prosperity to all.

============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 03:02:40 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
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Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 2:

What about Hawaii, California, and Nevada - states that, Hanger noted, "have
10% solar or more"?

In Hawaii, electricity prices rose 23 percent, while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 3 to 18 percent between 2009 and 2017.
In California, electricity prices rose 22 percent, while electricity from solar
and wind grew from 3 to 23 percent between 2009 and 2017.

Does that mean that deploying solar and wind at-scale always and everywhere
increases electricity prices? No. In some cases, the high cost that unreliable
solar and wind impose on the electrical grid are offset by much larger declines
in the price of other fuels, namely natural gas.

Texas and Nevada are two cases in point. In Texas, electricity retail prices
fell 14 percent, while electricity from solar and wind grew from 5 to 15
percent between 2009 and 2017. In Nevada, electricity prices fell 15 percent
while electricity from solar and wind grew from 1 to 12 percent, between 2009
and 2017.

However, it is neither remarkable that there are outlier states nor that they
are Texas and Nevada.

Many factors beyond the relative reliability of a power plant determine
electricity prices. We have been discussing the big ones, which include but are
not limited to the addition of new solar and wind and the costs they impose due
to their unreliability.

Texas, for example, is the epicenter of the fracking revolution. Between 2009
and 2017, natural gas prices for Texas power plants fell 21 percent and
wholesale electricity prices fell 21 percent.

Texas energy experts point to the way the way Texas electricity market is
structured, which has allowed some high-profile bankruptcies of natural gas
generators, and a re-tightening of supply last year.

That tightening of supply contributed to a 27% increase in electricity prices
in 2017 and, according to Bloomberg, prices in Texas are going to increase
again. ("Think power's expensive in Texas this year? Just Wait Until 2019.")

Meanwhile, solar plants in Nevada are, like those in California, the most
efficient in the nation, producing electricity at whopping 30 percent of its
rated capacity. By contrast, solar in New Jersey has a "capacity factor" of
just 12 percent.

Nevada thus benefited more from cheaper gas and high solar capacity factors
than relatively modest amount of intermittent solar in an extremely sunny
climate.


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The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 03:02:41 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 3:

Integrating solar on to the grid is much easier when to do when you can easily
turn natural gas plants up and down to accommodate their intermittency. And
it's much easier to do when it is 12 percent of your electricity instead of 20
percent.

But even at low levels, problems arise. According to the research done by Lion
Hirth, solar's value drops by 50 percent when it gets to just 15 percent of
mix. While those values may be different for Nevada, the impact of
unreliability is the same.

What is most remarkable about U.S. states heavy in solar and wind is that
electricity prices rose so much given the huge decline in natural gas prices.

Had natural gas prices not plummeted at what was almost the exact same time as
the beginning of the large-scale build-out of solar and wind in the United
States, price increases in solar and wind heavy states would have been far
larger.

Around the world, from Germany and Denmark to Spain and South Australia, even
modest penetrations of solar and wind, compared to what advocates claim we will
need to decarbonize, lead to large price increases.

Consider Spain. Its electricity prices were below the European average in 2009.
Today they are among the highest in Europe. There is little debate in Spain
that this was a result of adding so much solar and wind, which led the
government to cut subsidies.

Some readers suggested that the contribution of solar and wind to high
electricity prices was a legacy of older, more expensive projects, and implied
that rising solar and wind penetrations would decline in the future.

This thinking requires ignoring both physics and economics. The value of solar
and wind decline in economic value as they become larger shares of the
electricity grid for physical reasons. They produce too much energy when
societies don't need it and not enough energy when they do.

This problem is temporarily fixed through short-term (but still expensive)
work-arounds - like California and Germany paying their neighbors to take their
excess electricity.

But the more solar and wind are added, the problem is worsened, not improved,
which is why the economic value of solar and wind decline as they become a
larger part of the grid.

Moreover, we can see that in places like Germany, which is now procuring solar
and wind at their supposed rock-bottom prices, is still paying massively more
for electricity.


============================================================================

The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
AlleyCat
2022-01-07 03:02:42 UTC
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Permalink
n Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:01:23 -0600, Unum says...
Post by Unum
Post by AlleyCat
And it STILL won't lower energy costs to the consumer.
Prove it, blabbermouth.
Yes, Pussy-Soy-Boy Denier... Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity
Prices

Part 4:

Germany spent 24.3 billion euros above market electricity prices in 2017 for
its renewable energy feed-in tariffs.
Renewables require a massively larger material throughput than other energy
sources.

Renewables require a massively larger material throughput than other energy
sources. Environmental Progress

For example, solar and wind farms require at least an order of magnitude more
land than non-renewable plants. A single example dramatically illustrates the
difference. California's Ivanpah solar farm produces 18 times less electricity
on more than 290 times more land than Diablo Canyon nuclear plant.

This reality could, along with new transmission, be a significant additional
driver of higher costs, now and in the future.

The cost of land and expensive new transmission lines can be eliminated if you
have solar on your roof, note solar developers, but the savings on transmission
are more than cancelled out by higher installation costs.

What all of these additional costs have in common is that they stem directly
from underlying physical limits with generating electricity from sunlight and
wind. Both "fuels" are dilute and unreliable.

To make up for those inherent weaknesses, expanding energy from solar panels
and wind turbines requires massively increasing the physical footprint of
energy production.

Renewables require the use of vastly more land, longer and less-utilized
transmission lines, and large amounts of storage whether from lithium
batteries, new dams, compressed air caverns.

All renewables thus require a material throughput - from mining to processing
to installing to disposing of the materials later as waste - that is orders of
magnitude larger than for non-renewable energy sources.

As such, while there is and will remain complexity and uncertainty about the
specific causes of why solar and wind make electricity expensive, most if not
all stem from their underlying physical and (thus environmental constraint),
which is the limited, diffuse, dilute, and unreliable nature of renewable
fuels.

And that's something we need to talk about - and deal with - if we are to
protect the natural environment while expanding prosperity to all.
--
alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.r
ush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.global-warming
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The Global Average Temperature Dropped 0.29C Last Month - Now Sits At Just
0.08C Above The 30-Year Baseline

School Cancelled In Yakutia, Russia As Temperatures Plunge To -50C (-58F)

Record-Breaking Cold Continues To Grip Western Canada

"Red Alerts" Issued In India As Cold Wave Intensifies

Amid Freezing Lows & Energy Shortages, Europe Struggles To Keep The Lights On

Bhopal, India Suffers Lowest Temp In 55 Years

"Hazardous" Freeze To Hit The Prairies

Rare Polar Stratospheric Clouds Spotted

Europe Forecast A Bitterly Cold and Snowy Christmas

Colder Winter Headed For U.S. With Incoming 'Polar Vortex'

"Unprecedented" Cold Wave Is Hitting Scandinavia

Alaska Suffers "Persistent Record-Shattering Cold"

A Freezing Start To Winter Is "Rapidly Depleting" Europe's Gas Reserves

St. Petersburg's "Deep Freeze" Breaks 1893 Record

Sweden Busts All-Time December Low (-46.8F)

Bethel, Alaska Suffered Its Coldest November in 82 Years

Australia Suffered Coldest Nov Since 1999

Monthly Lows (And Rare Snows) Fall in Hawaii

Record Cold Grips Siberia (-68.3F)

Canada Sees Lowest November Temp Since 2004 (-45.6F)

Low Temperature Records Continue to Fall Across Europe

Australia's NSW Suffers Coldest November On Record

Record Lows Grip Europe

Sweden Registers -37.4C (-35.3F)

UK Schools Forced To Shut, + Bigger Freeze Inbound

Nordic Power Prices Surge On Sub-Zero Temps And Low Winds

Danger To Life' Warning Issued In Scotland

Spain Issues 'Cold Weather Alerts' - Restarts Old Coal Power Plant To Cope

In 2021 (To Date), A Total of 222 All-Time Low Temperature Records Have Been
Broken In The United States, Versus Just The 7 For All-Time High
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