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So Much For "Respect The Law" - Obama Did The Exact Same Thing
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AlleyCat
2022-01-04 07:40:13 UTC
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:34:55 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
Eldest Trump children won't comply with
subpoenas from New York attorney general
January 3, 2022
It's acceptable to ignore "witch hunt" subpoenas.

What was Obama's excuse?

Democrats Furious As Subpoena Ignored, But Obama Did The Exact Same Thing

This subpoena is just another talking point for democrats who are horrified and
trembling over the fact that their illegal abuses are about to be exposed.

Democrats are screaming for impeachment and Pelosi is having a hard time
holding back their ignorant hate. The reason? Don McGahn, former White House
counsel has refused a subpoena by House dems and blowhard Jerrold Nadler is
apoplectic over the act.

Of course, none of these democrats said a word or called for impeachment when
Obama forbade his political strategy director from answering GOP questions.

The New York Times apparently forgot this little story from 2014... or they
think the American public is too stupid to remember it:

The White House said Tuesday night that it would refuse to allow its director
of political strategy to testify Wednesday before a Republican-led House
committee investigating whether the administration had illegally conducted
political activity in the West Wing.

In a letter to Representative Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Committee
on Oversight and Government Reform, the president's top lawyer said that as a
member of the executive branch the political director, David Simas, had
immunity from being compelled to testify before Congress.

Mr. Issa's committee subpoenaed Mr. Simas last week, contending that the White
House should not have opened the Office of Political Strategy and Outreach this
year. Mr. Issa told the White House in May that "the American people have a
right to know if their tax dollars are being spent to support congressional
campaigns during the 2014 midterm elections in violation of federal law."

In a statement on Tuesday, Mr. Issa said that the decision to prevent Mr. Simas
from testifying was "another attack on our nation's Constitution" and that he
planned to examine whether the president intended to assert executive
privilege.

In past confrontations between Congress and the executive branch, lawmakers
have held officials in contempt if they refused to appear.

Presidents have also made formal, legal assertions of executive privilege to
keep advisers from testifying.

So, preventing congressional testimony is NOT new. Donald Trump is executing
the same privilege that Obama did, but is being called a villain by the left
without any proof.

Fox News reported on the democrats' outrage (and the fact that they have ZERO
legal ability to haul McGahn in to testify):

The top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee vowed Tuesday to go to court
if necessary to seek former White House Counsel Don McGahn's testimony, after
he defied a subpoena and skipped a committee hearing at President Trump's
direction.

The move infuriated Democrats and touched off what could be another high-
profile battle over holding a Trump official in contempt of Congress.

"Let me be clear, this committee will hear Mr. McGahn's testimony, even if we
have to go to court to secure it," House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry
Nadler, D-N.Y, said at the beginning of the hearing which McGahn did not
attend.

Accusing Trump of witness intimidation, Nadler added, "When this committee
issues a subpoena, even to a senior presidential adviser, the witness must show
up. Our subpoenas are not optional."

While he did not specifically mention contempt, Nadler told CNN on Monday night
that lawmakers would pursue that route.

A day earlier, the president directed McGahn to not appear for the committee
hearing, citing a Justice Department opinion that he cannot be compelled to
testify about his official duties.

"In short, the president took it upon himself to intimidate a witness who has a
legal obligation to be here today," Nadler said. "This conduct is not remotely
acceptable."

But Georgia Rep. Doug Collins, the ranking member on the committee, responded
to Nadler's remarks by accusing Democrats of political theatrics, saying they
are "trying desperately to make something out of nothing."

"I cannot emphasize this enough - the chairman's track record demonstrates he
does not actually want information," Collins said. "He wants the fight, but not
the truth."

Earlier this month, House Democrats opted to question an empty chair -
alongside a prop chicken - when Attorney General Bill Barr failed to appear
citing Democrats' unusual demands.

In a statement released Monday afternoon, White House Press Secretary Sarah
Sanders blasted Democrats for continuing to pursue Trump investigations, saying
they want a "wasteful and unnecessary do-over" in the wake of Special Counsel
Robert Mueller's probe - and describing the subpoena for McGahn as part of
that.

The related DOJ memo said McGahn, like other senior advisers to a president,
has "immunity" from being compelled to testify about his official duties.

"This immunity applies to the former White House Counsel. Accordingly, Mr.
McGahn is not legally required to appear and testify about matters related to
his official duties as Counsel to the President," the memo said.

The committee announced the hearing last week, but it was initially unclear
whether McGahn would appear due to the ongoing battle between congressional
Democrats and the White House over his testimony.

The committee, led by Nadler, subpoenaed McGahn on April 22, days after the
release of Mueller's report, which featured McGahn prominently in its section
related to the obstruction of justice inquiry. This included a claim that
McGahn disobeyed Trump's call to have him seek Mueller's removal.

The report also revealed that when the media reported on the president's
request, the president directed White House officials "to tell McGahn to
dispute the story and create a record stating he had not been ordered to have
the special counsel removed."

He did not.

The House committee's subpoena, coming amid a fight over access to the
unredacted Mueller report, called for McGahn to appear before the panel to
testify and provide documents related to the Mueller investigation.

The battle over McGahn's testimony is just one front in the clash between the
White House and congressional Democrats.

Earlier this month, the committee voted to hold Barr in contempt for defying a
subpoena for Mueller's full and unredacted report, as well as underlying
evidence and documents used in the investigation.

Trump, prior to the vote, asserted executive privilege over the materials in a
bid to protect them from being turned over to the committee. The full House has
yet to take a final vote on whether to hold Barr in contempt of Congress.

Unless these democrats are outed from power, the fight will continue.

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on the average Liberal woman instead. A Ph.D. candidate at Georgia State
University has analyzed the data out of a recent Pew Research Center poll, and
the results are amazing.

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fat men," that I'm merely politicizing an issue to be polarizing. I assure you
that's not the case. Allow me five hundred words to make my case. I was a
chubby kid. Strike that, I was a jiggly shrimp. Skinny-fat. The kind of kid who
was relatively thin, yet managed to ma

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10, 2016 Take The Red Pill Don't forget that Liberal men are usually the
offspring of domineering feminists or divorced feminists and sometimes single
mothers.

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Be Conservative

Men who are physically strong are more likely to take a right wing political
stance, while weaker men are inclined to support the welfare state, according
to a new study.

Researchers discovered political motivations may have evolutionary links to
physical strength.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic
redistribution, according to the research.

The principal investigators - psychological scientists Michael Bang Petersen,
of Aarhus University in Denmark, and Daniel Sznycer, of the University of
California in the U.S., believe that the link may reflect psychological traits
that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to
influence behavior today.

Professor Petersen said: 'While many think of politics as a modern phenomenon,
it has - in a sense - always been with our species.'

In the days of our early ancestors, decisions about the distribution of
resources were not made in courthouses or legislative offices, but through
shows of strength.

With this in mind, Professor Petersen and Professor Sznycer hypothesized that
upper-body strength - a proxy for the ability to physically defend or acquire
resources - would predict men's opinions about the redistribution of wealth.
AlleyCat
2022-01-04 07:42:54 UTC
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:34:55 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
Eldest Trump children won't comply with
subpoenas from New York attorney general
January 3, 2022
Like this NEVER happens on the left side... Hole Man?

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Eric Holder Is Defying the Law by Resisting Subpoena

Should the House have held Eric Holder in contempt? The question is not whether
they should have; the question is why they did not do it earlier.
Despite the attempts by the Democrats to spin this into something it is not,
the contempt is very straightforward: Darryl Issa's committee issued a subpoena
for documents relating to the Fast and Furious scandal.

Congress, like the courts, has subpoena power. A subpoena is simply an order to
appear at a certain date at a certain time to give testimony. A subpoena can
also command someone to bring items or documents with them for their testimony.

This is what has been happening in the House of Representatives.


When someone receives a subpoena, they can either comply or challenge the
subpoena on certain legal grounds or claim the documents are privileged. What
they cannot do is ignore the subpoena and that is what Holder did. For months,
Holder has ignored the subpoena.

When Darryl Issa asked if the documents had been assembled within the Justice
Department, Holder refused to answer. In short, he was thumbing his nose at the
committee.

Contempt is what is called a remedial power. If you fail to comply with a
subpoena, you can be jailed until you do comply. You can also be jailed for
contempt as a separate offense. Not shockingly, the most corrupt administration
since the Nixon administration quickly announced after the contempt vote that
it would not prosecute Eric Holder for contempt.

The problem here is that the Obama Regime believes it is above the law. Eric
Holder went off to Disney World the day the House voted on holding him in
contempt.

Doesn't that send a message? The only thing missing was Holder's extended
middle finger pointed towards Congress and Darryl Issa. Holder should be jailed
for contempt. He is not simply disagreeing with Congress. He is acting in
defiance of the law.

The only good news here is that we will have a new attorney eneral in January
and hopefully a Romney administration will be willing to give Fast and Furious
the investigation it needs and the prosecution many in the Obama Regime
deserve.

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Liberals Are Wimps (New Study Shocks Scientific Community...

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-wimps-new-study-shocks-scientific-
community/

Liberal men are physically smaller and weaker than conservative men - and it's
measurable.

=====

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attractive-than-conservatives/

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than Conservatives By
Phillip Schneider on August 11, 2020 ( Leave a comment ) While the flames of
the culture war rage, even far-left media publication Vice admits that liberal
men are weaker and less competent than conservatives.

=====

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/truth-liberals-weaker-conservatives

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives. Speaking of weak liberals,
who can't even stand the sight of history: Texas Restaurant Defending
Controversial Sign Some Are Calling Racist - by Robert Gehl. A Texas restaurant
is under attack on social media for what many are calling its racist décor. The
neon sign hung at Cook's Garage...

=====

Science Proves That Liberals Are Crazier Than Conservatives

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-crazy/

Well, I recently came across a fantastic article about another study of
Liberals - except this time, instead of focusing on the weak males, it focuses
on the average Liberal woman instead. A Ph.D. candidate at Georgia State
University has analyzed the data out of a recent Pew Research Center poll, and
the results are amazing.

=====

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal

https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/05/26/shocker-study-shows-physically-
weak-men-tend-to-be-liberal-n72373

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal. In news that will
surprise absolutely no one, a new study reveals that girly men are more likely
to favor socialist policies. The study, conducted by researchers at Brunel
University London, looked at the height, weight, physical strength, and bicep
circumference of 171 men, along...

=====

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https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/liberalism-breeds-soft-weak-young-men

by Steven Crowder I know some of you think when I say "liberalism breeds weak,
fat men," that I'm merely politicizing an issue to be polarizing. I assure you
that's not the case. Allow me five hundred words to make my case. I was a
chubby kid. Strike that, I was a jiggly shrimp. Skinny-fat. The kind of kid who
was relatively thin, yet managed to ma

=====

Why Liberals Are So Physically Monstrous And Repulsive...

https://www.returnofkings.com/118536/why-liberals-are-so-physically-monstrous-
and-repulsive

Liberals are not born uglier. They voluntarily remain ugly or become uglier to
fit a narrative. "Appearance is ideology". It takes a special kind of hypocrisy
to call something that is universally seen as ugly "beautiful" and vice-versa.

=====

Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic

https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-
pyschotic-traits/

Jun 9, 2016 Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians. A political-science
journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more
likely to show traits associated with "psychoticism"...

=====

12 Reasons Why Liberals And Progressives Will Always Be...

https://www.returnofkings.com/100887/12-reasons-why-liberals-and-progressives-
will-always-be-losers

Liberal men however are inexcusable, they are either effeminate enough to be
emotionally manipulated or are weak and yielding to social pressures. December
10, 2016 Take The Red Pill Don't forget that Liberal men are usually the
offspring of domineering feminists or divorced feminists and sometimes single
mothers.

=====

Men With Weak Upper Bodies Tend to Be Liberal - Physically Strong Men Tend to
Be Conservative

Men who are physically strong are more likely to take a right wing political
stance, while weaker men are inclined to support the welfare state, according
to a new study.

Researchers discovered political motivations may have evolutionary links to
physical strength.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic
redistribution, according to the research.

The principal investigators - psychological scientists Michael Bang Petersen,
of Aarhus University in Denmark, and Daniel Sznycer, of the University of
California in the U.S., believe that the link may reflect psychological traits
that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to
influence behavior today.

Professor Petersen said: 'While many think of politics as a modern phenomenon,
it has - in a sense - always been with our species.'

In the days of our early ancestors, decisions about the distribution of
resources were not made in courthouses or legislative offices, but through
shows of strength.

With this in mind, Professor Petersen and Professor Sznycer hypothesized that
upper-body strength - a proxy for the ability to physically defend or acquire
resources - would predict men's opinions about the redistribution of wealth.
AlleyCat
2022-01-04 07:44:35 UTC
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:34:55 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...
Eldest Trump children won't comply with
subpoenas from New York attorney general
January 3, 2022
Oooooh... so unique a situation.

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Far Left Wisconsin Governor Tells Counties to Ignore Subpoenas for House Audits

Far left Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers vetoed a series of ballot security
initiatives in the Badger State on Tuesday. Evers also told two counties to
ignore subpoenas from the GOP-controlled legislature.

On Friday Wisconsin's House Election Committee Chairman Janelle Brandtjen
issued subpoenas to Brown and Milwaukee Counties.

Democrats do not want the 2020 election audited for some reason?

The Daily Mail reported:

Wisconsin's Democrat Gov. Tony Evers vetoed a series of six election security
bills Tuesday sent to his desk by the state's GOP-controlled legislature.

Republicans do not have the votes to override Evers' veto, as no Democrats
supported the legislation in June.

The governor also said that two Wisconsin counties should not comply with
subpoenas to turn over ballots and voting equipment as part of an investigation
being led by the Republican head of the Assembly elections committee.

'Hell no,' Evers said when asked if the local election clerks should comply.
'You?ve seen what?s going on in Arizona. It?s a clown show.'

Arizona's partisan election audit has been full of embarrassing revelations,
the suspension of the audit's account and one of its early supporters
describing the process as botched.

One of the bills would have required voters to fill out more paperwork and show
ID whenever they vote absentee. Elderly and disabled voters would would have to
apply for a ballot every year, rather than having one sent automatically.

Another would have limited the collection of absentee ballots more than two
weeks out from an election. Others prohibited clerks from correcting mistakes
on absentee ballots, a longstanding practice, making it a $10,000 offense that
could warrant three years in prison.

=====

Liberals Are Wimps (New Study Shocks Scientific Community...

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-wimps-new-study-shocks-scientific-
community/

Liberal men are physically smaller and weaker than conservative men - and it's
measurable.

=====

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than...

https://phillipschneider.com/vice-admits-liberal-men-are-weaker-less-
attractive-than-conservatives/

Vice Admits Liberal Men are Weaker, Less Attractive than Conservatives By
Phillip Schneider on August 11, 2020 ( Leave a comment ) While the flames of
the culture war rage, even far-left media publication Vice admits that liberal
men are weaker and less competent than conservatives.

=====

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/truth-liberals-weaker-conservatives

TRUTH: Why Liberals Are WEAKER Than Conservatives. Speaking of weak liberals,
who can't even stand the sight of history: Texas Restaurant Defending
Controversial Sign Some Are Calling Racist - by Robert Gehl. A Texas restaurant
is under attack on social media for what many are calling its racist décor. The
neon sign hung at Cook's Garage...

=====

Science Proves That Liberals Are Crazier Than Conservatives

https://freedomwire.com/liberals-are-crazy/

Well, I recently came across a fantastic article about another study of
Liberals - except this time, instead of focusing on the weak males, it focuses
on the average Liberal woman instead. A Ph.D. candidate at Georgia State
University has analyzed the data out of a recent Pew Research Center poll, and
the results are amazing.

=====

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal

https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2017/05/26/shocker-study-shows-physically-
weak-men-tend-to-be-liberal-n72373

Shocker: Study Shows Physically Weak Men Tend to be Liberal. In news that will
surprise absolutely no one, a new study reveals that girly men are more likely
to favor socialist policies. The study, conducted by researchers at Brunel
University London, looked at the height, weight, physical strength, and bicep
circumference of 171 men, along...

=====

Liberalism Breeds Soft, Weak, Young "Men" - Louder With...

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/liberalism-breeds-soft-weak-young-men

by Steven Crowder I know some of you think when I say "liberalism breeds weak,
fat men," that I'm merely politicizing an issue to be polarizing. I assure you
that's not the case. Allow me five hundred words to make my case. I was a
chubby kid. Strike that, I was a jiggly shrimp. Skinny-fat. The kind of kid who
was relatively thin, yet managed to ma

=====

Why Liberals Are So Physically Monstrous And Repulsive...

https://www.returnofkings.com/118536/why-liberals-are-so-physically-monstrous-
and-repulsive

Liberals are not born uglier. They voluntarily remain ugly or become uglier to
fit a narrative. "Appearance is ideology". It takes a special kind of hypocrisy
to call something that is universally seen as ugly "beautiful" and vice-versa.

=====

Science says liberals, not conservatives, are psychotic

https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-
pyschotic-traits/

Jun 9, 2016 Turns out liberals are the real authoritarians. A political-science
journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more
likely to show traits associated with "psychoticism"...

=====

12 Reasons Why Liberals And Progressives Will Always Be...

https://www.returnofkings.com/100887/12-reasons-why-liberals-and-progressives-
will-always-be-losers

Liberal men however are inexcusable, they are either effeminate enough to be
emotionally manipulated or are weak and yielding to social pressures. December
10, 2016 Take The Red Pill Don't forget that Liberal men are usually the
offspring of domineering feminists or divorced feminists and sometimes single
mothers.

=====

Men With Weak Upper Bodies Tend to Be Liberal - Physically Strong Men Tend to
Be Conservative

Men who are physically strong are more likely to take a right wing political
stance, while weaker men are inclined to support the welfare state, according
to a new study.

Researchers discovered political motivations may have evolutionary links to
physical strength.

Men's upper-body strength predicts their political opinions on economic
redistribution, according to the research.

The principal investigators - psychological scientists Michael Bang Petersen,
of Aarhus University in Denmark, and Daniel Sznycer, of the University of
California in the U.S., believe that the link may reflect psychological traits
that evolved in response to our early ancestral environments and continue to
influence behavior today.

Professor Petersen said: 'While many think of politics as a modern phenomenon,
it has - in a sense - always been with our species.'

In the days of our early ancestors, decisions about the distribution of
resources were not made in courthouses or legislative offices, but through
shows of strength.

With this in mind, Professor Petersen and Professor Sznycer hypothesized that
upper-body strength - a proxy for the ability to physically defend or acquire
resources - would predict men's opinions about the redistribution of wealth.
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